German Shepherd/Wolf-Shepherd breeding - Page 8

I believe the "Alsatian Wolfdog" was term used by the "Allies" in reference to the GSD, for the purpose of political correctness, since they did not want to acknowledge the "German" in the breed-name, right ?  Underneath the term, the animal was still the very same GSD, as far as I know.

I did not see anyone posting on this matter referring to mythical applications pertaining to the wolf, but simply stated, the work has already been done creating the GSD and there is no need to reintroduce the wolf. Wolves are spectacular creatures that deserve to be left where they belong: in the wild free and unfettered by humans. Let them be as they deserve to be. This is response to Sam.

Gee...  cats probably decended from the Saber-tooth tiger...  Maybe I should breed my siamese to a Bengal to strengthen the feline genes????    Hummmm......  just a thought....

I own my male's parents. His mother is 11yrs, and his father was just PTS at 15.5yrs. Longevity is not something devoid in the breed today. I see no reason to dilute everything with wolf blood just for that. I have known a few wolfdogs in my day. They always seem caught between worlds: too domestic to be wild, to wild to be pets. Only two had owners that truly understood them and could provide for their mental and physical needs. The rest were caught in an unfortunate limbo of owners trying to fit their square-peg wolfdog into their round-hole life.

JC.CARROLL
Very well said and oh so true

I'm no expert but your idea is not even original. It's called a Czechoslovakian Wolfdog, or as the AKC calls it, the Czech Vlcak. Basically a throwback GSD I guess since it was "made" with 48 GSDs and 4 Carpathian wolves about 60 years after the GSD got its start. If you want this "perfect dog" get one of those.

You said "And the only romantic ideas I have behind breeding is the perfect GSD, as von Stephanitz would have imagined."

He didn't imagine, he made it a reality and he said very plainly that Horand von Grafrath was "no cringer."

I'm pretty sure that means "not shy." Hence anything you breed your shy girl to is not going to produce "the perfect GSD, as von Stephanitz would have imagined."

Peace out.

A couple years ago my sister and I went to a place in Indiana called wolf park.  We took a 3 day dog behavior seminar and got to go in with 6 purebred wolves and take pictures and interact with them.  One of the things they talked about was how unpredictable a wolf/dog hybrids behavior is and how they should never be bred together.  A wolf is many times more predictable than a mix as you never know which side a hybrid will show, the wolf side or the dog side. 
To the original poster please go to this website www.wolfpark.org to educate yourself better on this topic.

 There are age old mythical perceptions of the Canis Lupus, or Wolf, and it would truly behoove us to go beyond that to attain a deeper understanding of who this animal is, and why it is so utterly important now to de-myth him. 

Really?  Scientists have been studying wolves for centuries.  Pretty sure we have "de-mythed" them.


"It took 10,000 years of selective breeding and training to get dogs to do what we want. Over those same 10,000 years, wolves have been living on their own. A wolf’s brain is about 30% larger than a dogs, thus making the argument that wolves can be roughly 30% smarter than dogs. Do you think an independent wolf, whose ancestors have always been responsible for their own lives, is going to come when you call or do anything you want? No, a wolf lives its life on its own terms. A dog will let you take a pair of slippers out of its mouth because we bred them to… a wolf would see those same slippers as their personal property and guard them from you ."
 (Source:  http://www.graywolfconservation.com/Captivity/wolves_as_pets.htm)

http://www.montana.edu/wwwbi/staff/creel/wolf%20gc.pdf

http://www.graywolfconservation.com/Research/Thesis.pdf

Bk2PUR, with what for wolf do you want cower you dog? Real wild wolf? How?
Or with dog races, wich look out like wolf?

I think, Wolf-Dog crossing pups - will be the best present for your enemies. They receive revenge  for all.

 

I agree with most everyone else if your looking to keep the integrity of the GSD breed alive i wouldn't breed her with a wolf or wolf-dog hybrid. On that note however my dad owned a shepherd/wolf mix and she was the sweetest dog, but again if your breeding to keep the integrity of the GSD breed alive definatly would not breed her with a wolf or wolf-dog hybrid.