Crate unhealthy for a dogs for their behavior - Page 3

Thanks for all your answers The reason the behaviorist told this because ske Said dogs Can get passive or that they dont take initiative to plat og something One of my reason for asking that my puppy got a leg injuri so the vet told mé to that hé should be calm for 4 weeks so I have had to crate him more almost All Day because hé Will jump and play If I let him out So I Got worried If I where doing something wrong

 There is no reason you should have any problem with your dogs reaction to an injury in having to be crated for several weeks till it gets well


Pano is also a very big thing to have to also crate, when our gsd pups are growing and sometimes it takes \2 weeks or more to get them over it and even can reoccur/

Of course, over use or no use has pros and cons like anything else in life.

Every dog is different and the WAY you do what you do is what OUTCOME you will produce.

How I do it and get good results and someone else does same can get a different result because all dogs are genetically made up di\fferent.

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I've never had a dog that didn't like his or her their crate. It's their den and their safe house. Right now my dog is inside sleeping with the gate open. Frankly, if I hadn't used a crate when I was working, I'd have come home to destruction and maybe an injured dog.

I worked for a kennel where dogs were crated upwards of probably 20 hours a day, and let out in 15-20 minute intervals a few times a day to stretch their legs. In most cases they are awesome, in that case, abuse IMHO.

myret, admittedly it's going to be frustrating for you pup to have his activity restricted while he's recovering from an injury, but it's not likely to cause him any harm.  When you're home and can focus on him, there's no reason you couldn't take him out of the crate but keep him on a short leash so you can still control his activity...this would also be a good time to teach him games that make him use him mind more than his body--you can do 'nosework' games where you make him use his sense of smell, and you can teach him to give you direct eye contact, and to touch your hand with his nose on cue, stuff like that.  If you keep his mind busy, he'll be less frustrated by how inactive his body has to remain for the time being. 

Darka, that's not a 'kennel', that's a hoarding situation. :(  Sad but far more common than we'd like to believe it to be....

Too many dogs spent too much time in kennels, on chains, and in crates in my opinion.
No,
not my opinion,
something I've seen and continue to see far too often.

It's anything but harmless, without any effect on the animal, this I'm sure of.


Moons.

I guess we all have our own ideas about what is harmful to our dogs. Some breeders have multiple dogs and keep them in kennels. Some whelp litters in unheated buildings during the dead of winter. Some have to put their dogs in crates when they are not around to keep an eye on them.  It's all about extremes and using common sense.

I think they have their uses but as soon as we have house manners, out they go! Of course one has to take into account their dog and any issues they have. I do think a free roaming, well mannered dog has an enriched life, and even a bigger vocabulary with their masters. The dog also gets to demonstrate how clever they are! They teach or learn things by themselves in ways I find endearing!

Like yesterday, I came home, the dog was happy to see me, but he willed me to the front door, sitting very nicely and gave a single purposeful bark. I have been taught by him that means I have a package on the front porch! Sure enough my new boots were sitting there waiting for me. Now it helps that the UPS guy always leaves him a cookie.....

What's your guys opinion on a kennel and not a crate.  Like the place I talked about that I was doing some work for, they would literally never walk the dogs outside of the kennel unless they didn't use the bathroom in the outside kennel.  I want to say the inside kennel was five feet wide, but honestly it didn't even look five feet wide, and it was only maybe a foot and a half longer than each dog....so maybe 5 by 5?  The outside kennel was on concrete as well, same width, but about 10 feet long.  These dogs are in the kennels 24/7.  I personally thought it was abusive, and the people there really didn't like many of my thoughts or opinions (even though mine were right).   This same place's owner, during a time that it was flooding here, answered the phone drunk.  A client was worried about her dogs because of the flooding, the owner made her freak out with his response and then hung up on her.  The few dogs who do get to play in the "day care" have nothing more than a inside area that they play in (occasionally on the outside area, but it's in gravel) with a day care "trained day care teacher" as the website calls him.....who does nothing more than just sits there and pretty much doses off.  My niece knows more about dogs than this guy.

I think what you are talking about is a degree of neglect, GSDguy08, and you can only do what you are doing, not recommend them or report them if they are breaking laws. People should think about doing surprise visits on a kennel, I think, to see what really is the situation for their dog. And that can help someone decide whether to accept the situation for their dog, or yank them out of there.

And a note about crates...I am a single dog owner. I certainly can see using crates more in a multi-dog home, but I probably would rarely ever shut the door. It would be their choice to seek their "caves", also providing one has a well adjusted pack.