If the Capt. was alive today - Page 25

Cphudson...the lack of common sesnse I see on this site amazes me lmao.

it's funny, as soon as Gustav mentioned liking this thread not becoming violent, that's exactly what happened.

Thanks, gharsha. Do you know if that book is still available?

Hey Blitzen, yes, it is available on amazon and dogwise. Very interesting read.

Thanks, Gusmanda.

I guess we can all agree that most of the Capt's breeding mandates would not fly today. Culling litters, keeping no more than 2 brood bitches, etc. nothing most I know would ever do.

I was happy to read vomeisenhaus' post saying that there are dogs today that are as good or better than those in the day. Maybe we do tend to romanticize the past a little too much. I am always impressed when my "Review" arrives; the first thing I look for is the listing of GSD's with new AKC performance titles. Many well known kennels are breeding these dogs - workinglines, showlines, Am showlines and combos.

We just held our trial, had a nice mix of GSL's and WL's and my 3/4 ASL, the odd dog out LOL. At the end of the day we had 1 new IP01, 3 IPO2, 2 IPO3. 3, 4 BH's, 7 AD's. Everyone was excited for the handlers and the dogs. I just love it when the dogs and people I train with do well.




 

Then the Capt. would be happy and all these examples are good examples of the breed just in the wrong place......Like the ones lacking courage are making good alert dogs, and the ones with extreme physical features are good movie star dogs, and the ones with the tail always waggoning with something in their mouth are great circus dogs. Please people.....Look we got a lot of good info out of the thread, but I think we have exhausted this thread. JMO

Thanks again Gustav.  

The conclusion then is:  If the Capt. was alive today, it would matter as much now as it did when the Nazi's took control of most of Eroupe in the 30's - zero.

I have two dogs right now that the Captain would not approve of... not really. 

Doesn't mean I am going to breed them (not going to).  It also does not mean I don't love them and give them the best care.  Does not mean they do not work (they do).  Obedience, Tracking and so forth.  Good dogs but not good BREEDING dogs as they lack all the components of GSD drives and temperament (nerve and courage). 

I HAD a dog the Captain WOULD have approved of.. she was all you could ever ask for though a bit over size.  She had the "right stuff" in every way.. and courage, nerver, hunt and fight drives and totally obedient.  She was wonderful.  She was born in 1992.. lived to be nearly 14. 

I did not breed her either.. and she is one that should have been bred!

The dogs we OWN may not be dogs that should be BRED.  The dogs we OWN may not be the best examples of the breed.  Doesn't mean we don't like the dogs we OWN. 

 

I think a lot of people here would do well to consult with people who hunt big game with hounds that are required to cold trail, run, bay , fight & tree wild game such as bear, mt. Lion, bobcat and more commonly small game raccoon. Many on here will totally disagree with what they do as there chosen sport but so be it. I was involved in it for many years. How many people here believe there are hounds who can strike game from a vehicle moving 60mph down the road? It is not only possible but "COMMON PRACTICE" althouth the ideal speed is around35mph.. one of their main tests is if the dog will still hunt like this in freezing or close to temperatures. Has anyone here "MAINLY IN THE NORTHERN STATES evere seen a truck with a dog box with portholes in it so the dogs can stick there head out? Those dog boxes are called "RIG DOG BOXES" and the dogs with there head sticking out are actually hunting from right there in the dog dog box (they don't call them crates)as they will "WIND THE SCENT" of there quarry from right there and start barking "INTENSELY" when they "WIND" the desired game that has crossed the road previously. The people who do this seriously are "UNCOMPROMISING" in the dogs they keep. It is pretty simple really. They are VERY SELCTIVE. Most of everything I learned doing this carried over to gsd & working dogs. It is the same thing in .any ways. One of the old timers told me 2 quotes that I will never forget. #1. It cost just as much to feed a dog that satisfies you as it does one that don't. #2. Dogs always get better when they are dead & gone... lmao. To gustav.... this was a very good thread with good intentions but not very realistic. Because of time & change because the new nazi regime would be peta & greenpeace. We all know how most feel about "CULLING" as they did in their time. Kurt

When will people learn that not all dogs are suitable for breeding? Also, not all dogs are suitable for work in the owners preference for work e.g. Sch h. So much, for a working dog, depends on the trainers skills and, many cast offs for Schh may be competent in another discipline. Owners must have an open mind as to which discipline is best suited for their dog. No dog is born with the skills that are demanded of them any more than our children are born to be brain surgeons.

What does a title establish? Simple. It establishes that the dog has learning power and then it is for the trainers to nurture the best attributes of the animal to enable the dog to reach higher levels. It also establishes that for one day only it is competent to pass the test in whatever discipline it is entered. That is not when the training stops. It is a continual process throughout the dogs working life. When a dog fails then look at yourselves first, that could easily be the reason.

Not all dogs will perform consistently at the top level but a pass in any test means that at whatever score the dog is competent.

Mackenzie

 

Mackenzie, IMO the Capt would like that post.