Almost 2 years and no AKC Papers - Page 1

Hi there.  Hoping some members here can help me.  I live in Canada, I have a beautiful girl who will be two in June.  Her breeder is from the Pacific Northwest in the US.  I picked her up from the breeder at 9 weeks old and was told my AKC papers would be mailed to me.  No problem as it was the same with my CKC male.  I picked her up in Aug 2009, and in December I recieved an email saying that the papers were ready to be mailed out and apologized for the delay but the sire needed a DNA test (German import) and that held things up almost 9 weeks.  No problem, I asked that the papers be sent....no hurry as she is still young and I had no immediate plans that required her reg papers.

I have not recieved the papers at this point.  I have emailed the breeder multiple times at various email addresses I have been able to find for him.  I am not having my phone calls returned either.  My girl stepped on something back in the fall and I had to have her sedated for stitches and was wanting to have her prelim hip xrays done at that time as well since she was about 16 months, but was unable to because I didn't have the reg info for the dam and sire.....I know who they are, but I didn't have the detailed info that the vet and apparently OFA require.....so I am stuck here with this dog who is registered, that I have no papers for and I can't get her prelim OFA screening done nor will I be able to get her certification if I do not have her papers by June(ish) when she turns two.

My question is, is there a way that I can bypass the breeder and get her papers directly from the AKC?  I am tired of no response from the breeder (LOL).  The breeder is well known in the Shutzhund group, he is reputable and has some beautiful dogs.  I have seen him recommended here more than once before and after I picked up my girl.

Anyway, any insight would be greatly appreciated. 
Thank You in advance

Do you have in writing that the dog is AKC registered or registerable? Did the breeder give you the name and AKC numbers of the sire and dam and DOB of the litter? If you have any of this, send a letter to AKC explaining  the situation and include copies of all supporting documentation.

If the breeder is a member of the GSDCA, contact the President via their website and tell him what has happened.

I'd give it another 2, 3 months and if nothing comes of it and you still don't have your papers, then if I were  you I'd come back here to this thread and identify the breeder. Many times peer pressure will get results. If the breeder doesn't read this board, someone he or she know does and the word will get around fast. I'd also report the situation to ripoffreports.com. The truth is never slanderous or libelous.  You are entitled to be angry; I'd be furious.

Good luck.



 

You can contact AKC registration department by phone & ask if the litter was registered. You would need to know; the full names of sire, dam, your litter's date of birth, & breeder's name + address.
If you look up your puppies sire & dam pedigree sometimes the registration #'s are listed. If they are that would be a huge help when you contact AKC.

If the litter has been registered it'll be easier for you to register your dog directly through AKC. If the litter is not registered for soe reason then it would be difficult.

Sometimes there are issues with DNA that prolongs the process by a few weeks - months. But almost 2 years is excessive. Good Luck.

As previously posted The truth is never slanderous or libelous.
After 2 years I wouldn't wait another minute.......
No way can this person be "reputable" despite what others may have posted on this site about him.

It may take AKC a few months to respond.

Call them with all info you have on the litter.

You will get your answers immediately.

Thanks.

Blitzen....I would be absolutely schocked if my dog was unregisterable.....the breeder is highly active in Schutzhund, he has had a hand in trainer hundreds of titled dogs according to his website...again, I've seen his name pop up here a few times when discussing breeders and schutzhund, never bad, always in a respected manner....both parents are titled KKl1 and sire is Sch3, dam is Sch1, both are listed in pedigreedatabase....not sure if breeder is member of GSDCA....can't find any info on his website regarding that.

cphudson.....last email contact from the breeder was that he had papers in hand and just needed a mailing address, that was late Dec 2010....all communication since then has gone unreplied to.  I will check this website to see if reg# are listed....I don't seem to think they are.  Sire is german import so where would I find info for him?  I don't think he is AKC reg, he would be reg with SV??????  I am asking that becuase I don't know.

dpdmli......Thank you.  I will give it a few more days and see if he responds to this most recent email I sent today.....if he does not I will consider posting his name and maybe someone else has had direct dealings.  My worry was maybe that something had happened to the breeder but he has produced at least two litters since mine, one with same sire, one with same dam.

Blitzen and GSDPACK.....thanks for the information......if I can find the sire and dam detailed info I will call the AKC on Monday.

Anyone who is active in Schutzhund will know, or I assume they will if he is as active as his website says he is, who my breeder is....he even used to train with my uncle who retired from handlung Schutzhund dogs back in the early 90's, but was highly active through the 70's and 80's.  I don't want to name at this moment, but if someone who is fairly active in Sch was to PM me I would give the info and they could tell me if they know of any other issues with the breeder.

Thanks everyone for all of the great information :o)  I just want her papers as I have slacked on doing anything with her and really need to get moving before it is too late.  I feel like I have wated her thus far.  She has been an amazing family guardian, but is not living anywhere near her potential.

I'm not suggesting the dog isn't eligible for AKC registration. The reason you may need in writing that the dog was represented to you as AKC registered or registerable is that AKC rules state that anyone selling a dog with either or those representations MUST provide the registration papers at the time of the sale or they must provide in writing why they are not available and when they will be.

If AKC can tell you over the phone that the litter has been registered, then you are half way there. If the breeder has not registered the litter, you are probably going to need some written documentation. Tattoo? Microchip? Any clue where the rest of the litter went?

Ahhhhh gotcha

She did not come from the breeder with a tattoo or chip, I had her chipped once we were home.  As for the rest of the litter, aside from knowing that one went to a police officer I know nothing else.

I have emails saved from the breeder including the one that says that the papers are ready to be mailed.

This is the last email I recieved

" Hi all,
 
I hope al is going well with the puppies and your families. From the reports I have received, it seems like all is going well.
 
I have just received the Puppy Registrations from AKC. It took an inordinate amount of time because "name of sire removed" needed a DNA test which took about 8½ weeks, which delayed the Litter Registration.  Please send the name(s) of the new owner(s) and the mailing address to which you want the Registration Application sent.
 
If I can help with training tips or other information about your dogs, please feel free to contact me.
 
Best regards,
XXX"
 

I notice that the breeder's website mentions that they accept credit cards and PayPal--did you happen to pay for your almost-2 years old pup that way, aceofspades? If you used either of those options, it would be worth your time to contact that company and lodge a complaint there, too--they might help you get results while you're waiting for the AKC to go through their process (and I'd also absolutely contact the AKC about this--there's simply no excuse for such a delay.)