Looking for a European German Shepherd excellant breeder. Bullinger Shepherds? - Page 5

I never said that the dogs from Tracey are not nice dogs, and I also never said she won't stand behind her dogs. I don't believe anything I have said is negative, other than my saying I would not buy from a breeder who mass produces. That is personal preference. There are many breeders out there that are raising 100+ puppies a year. Some of which, people on here recommend to people who come on asking about breeders. Do you really believe the breeding animals and up and comers are getting adequate attention and socialization?

My point is, when looking for a new family member, just do your research. Ask questions. Ask to see where the dogs live. Do not just take the word of people who have ''talked to the breeder on the phone''.

I think my only question when it comes to large scale
commercial set ups is this- is there THAT much of a
shortage of good GSD that people need to derive their
livlihood from producing them in an almost factory type
manner?

I had no idea that the breed was so close
to extinction  

I think the basic owner seeking a healthy stable pet
has just as good of a chance, if not better, to find
a smaller scale breeder that lives with, works, trains,
titles & health tests their dogs than a large scale
commercial type kennel. Not saying they can't get a
good quality dog from there, hell, I'd hope they could!

I've come to the conclussion that to a certain extent, breeders need to have a good amount of dogs being produced, in order to observe patterns as to which dogs producte what traits so a breeder with more breeding stock can better asses what the outcome of a breeding will result in. With a smaller-hobby breeder, you don't get this benefit, although you get other benefits such as breeder being more familiar with each individual pup. Anyway, second conclusion I've reached is buyers REALLY need to do their homework, breeders will do their best to match you with with a correct pup, but it is not a replacement for due-diligence.

If I am buying a dog, I want one that has been raised underfoot. I want one that has experienced car rides and cats and vacuums running and pans being dropped. Someone who raises their pups in their home (or is always having them inside) and is raising one litter at a time, getting them used to all these things is really putting their all into their dogs. Someone who leaves them out in a kennel to be fed 2 times daily until someone comes to buy them, is not. JMO and preference. Edited to add that maybe I should make a thread small vs large breeders as I have kind of gotten off track.

There are people out there who are incapable of taking good care of one cat and then there are people out there who are capable of taking excellent care of 100 cats.   It all boils down to the individual people. 
A person could raise only one litter a year, and be really crappy puppy raisers.  Another person could raise 10 litters a year and those puppies could be socialized 110%.

"Do you really believe the breeding animals and up and comers are getting adequate attention and socialization?"

I absolutely know they can, I've seen it myself.  Those "up and comers" couldn't earn titles and championships if they weren't getting daily attention, training and socialization.  As for the large kennel that I mentioned previously where I worked.  All the dogs were given affection daily, almost every day (except during bad weather) they were excercized in groups out in fenced in pastures and woods.  There was a pond for swimming and retrieving work during warm days.  The dogs were rotated in the house so everyone learned house manners.  A few dogs each week would get a one-on-one trip to a park or store.  Whenever possible, at least one dog, if not two or three, got to go in the car for errands. 

Large good breeders have a stigma against them because puppymills are large-giant kennel operations.  But it's a naive stereotype to dismiss a good breeder just because they have a large breeding program. 

And besides, where do you think most small breeders get their breeding dogs from?  If you're really against large breeders then make sure the small breeder that you buy a puppy from doesn't have any large kennel names in their dogs' pedigrees, else you'll still be supporting large breeders. 

Well, you are all going to believe what you want to believe until you see different with your own eyes, I suppose.

"And besides, where do you think mostsmall breeders get their breeding dogs from? If you're really against large breeders then make sure the small breeder that you buy a puppy from doesn't have any large kennel names in their dogs' pedigrees, else you'll still be supporting large breeders."............lol

Wow I didn't think so many would respond,
interesting replies a lot to think about. Thanks

Well I have a Bullinger dog, I'll post some pics of him. He is "ALL THAT", and than some

I can strongly recoment Bullinger breed Tracy does have the best GSD in North America. She does her homework and breed to the best GSD in Germany.
Her breeding females all come from great bloodlines.

( GSD breeder from Germany)
Thomas Schoder