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fasteddielv

by fasteddielv on 16 June 2012 - 22:06

Hi everyone, I know very little about conformation. I may do some conformation with this dog for breeding purposes. Time will tell. He's 4 days shy of 5 months in these photos. He weighs in at 45 pounds, about 22 inches. Anyway i you guys wouldn't mine, please critique my dog. Thank you!
VIto at 5 months


by beetree on 17 June 2012 - 00:06

Fasteddy, you probably need a proper stack to get a proper critique. Look at the photo example in the top right corner of this page, as what you want to strive for. It often takes two to three people to get the proper shot. The experts can't compare the angulations without it. The angle of the first two, evidenced by the apparently sloping boards the dog is standing on is crucial, too. Your last shot is slightly better with that, so the topline shows better in that one. Also, the shadiness of the shots does not help with seeing the detail. 

Do a search on this board on how to do a proper stack, I know there have been threads on it in the past. There definitely is a wrong and right way to do it.

I'm not a conformation expert so I'll just say, looks like you got a nice WL pup. And while you certainly can and will dream of breeding, at this age with no accomplishments to credit, or age appropriate health testing, the experts have no idea if the pup is breedworthy.

by SitasMom on 17 June 2012 - 00:06


do you want a "real" critique, or comments like - oh so cute, what a pretty pup?
can people honestly tell you what they think without you getting upset?

macrowe1

by macrowe1 on 17 June 2012 - 00:06

I'm with Sitasmom. Do you want a true critique or just compliments and comments on the pup? Need to stack him better, but that takes some time and a lot of effort. And too young to think about breeding, especially without knowing hips or without any accomplishments and titles.


maywood

by maywood on 17 June 2012 - 00:06

This dog is worthless for confirmation.  All working line dogs suck at confirimation.  Working lines are basically for obedience.  If you want a real trotter you will need to spend some real money and get a showline shepherd.  That is where it is really at.

fasteddielv

by fasteddielv on 17 June 2012 - 00:06

Sitsamom, what is up with you? That time of the month, LOL!
Macrowe1, I think Sitsamom covered her point, what is your point?

Do I have to have a showline to get an honest critique without all the useless BS posts?

What makes you think I want, the awe so cute comment?

fasteddielv

by fasteddielv on 17 June 2012 - 01:06

Beetree, thanks, but I thought I remember reading here somewhere that they didn't want a stack for critique. I don't know if my dog will bend like the photo you mentioned, LOL. Also the boards are perfectly flat, it's an elevated flat bench. I guess I should also have the camera lower to get a better angle.>

macrowe1

by macrowe1 on 17 June 2012 - 01:06

No, I'm not saying that you need a showline to get good critiques. But when you don't stack a dog, and you put pictures up of a pup who isn't stacked, no good headshots, and then ask for critique, how do you expect someone to critique? Well, he's not stacked, he has no angulation. I personally like his head and color, and he's a nice looking thing, but the pictures aren't worth critiquing. What do you want people to say? You ask for critique, which a lot do and when people give their comments the person gets offended, all Sita is saying is don't get your feelings hurt, which I don't want to hurt your feelings either. No, you don't need a showline to get great conformation, but you do need to learn to stack and take some good pictures for conformation before asking opinions. That's my point. I have a WL and SL, and I like both, for different reasons. But to get an "honest" critique that you want, you need good pictures of some good stacking.

fasteddielv

by fasteddielv on 17 June 2012 - 01:06

Well Macrowe1 I explained I know little about conformation. It doesn't take much to realize that also means stacking, photo's required etcetera. So your and Sitsamoms hostal posts don't provide any positive input, just useless BS. Now your last post is moving toward a useful post, good job.

fasteddielv

by fasteddielv on 17 June 2012 - 01:06

Pig headed and worthless post like this is why many don't frequent here.

This dog is worthless for confirmation.  All working line dogs suck at confirimation.  Working lines are basically for obedience.  If you want a real trotter you will need to spend some real money and get a showline shepherd.  That is where it is really at.

You must have like a month or two experience in GSD's. I mean working lines are for OB. Really, wow, wow, I didn't realize thats all their good for. What an as$!





 


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