How do I raise a confident dog - Page 10

 Mountain!  Please check in!  Were you scared off by all these opinions? I sincerely doubt it.

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Hmmmm, and let's see if I got this right... Every dog is different and every environment is different, so each dog and human experience will be differently considered, therefore, the solution to any issues will necessarily, be different. Is that right, Maywood?

Fawndallas is right. And I did give my opinion in an earlier response, I believe.

Maywood, we can agree to disagree. But your previous input goes without saying. OBVIOUSLY different dogs require different training methods. Every single person on this thread knows that. But, there are some dogs, that no matter how you go about training (even if it is the exact way that specific dog should be trained), can ultimately grow up to be scared, nervy, fearful, aggressive, etc etc, and that cannot ALWAYS, 100% of the time, be blamed on the owner.

I am done replying to this thread, can't keep arguing with no avail! Sorry for hijacking the thread to the OP.

Hoo-boy, minro, lighten up! Don't take the bait next time is all. LOL 

Now, I think some of what maywood says can be true, and most of what Gustav says, is true. The OP just needs to act like a normal human being, one who doesn't do stupid stuff like run in the bathroom and take a pillow to put over their head when they hear thunder. If their motorcycle backfires, they shouldn't jump up screaming, and hug the dog. That makes sense to me. On the other hand if your dog is always hiding under the bed even when the skies are clear blue, it is in the genes. And if it is in the genes, you can mask it sometimes, with confidence building, but what's the saying? In times of great stress dogs (and people) will revert to their true nature, and that is DNA speaking.

Haha, I didn't mean that in a mean way! I just meant that it seems we are beating a dead horse. Agreeing to disagree may be the best idea :)

Well said Beetree.

maywood wrote:

Workingdogzzz - so according to you, don't even think about visiting your local Humane Society and getting a dog from there.  They are all shit and worthless because of their bad genetics.  Purebred breeders and owners can sometimes be so full of themselves.

Ummm, not even close to what I said.
Why do you consistantly read more in to what others
have to say about this?

Adopting from the Humane Society is a roll of the dice.
You are pulling from the unknown.  So you try your best, 
and you pick the most forward & open dog/pup from the 
bunch and hope for the best. 

When purchasing a puppy, look at the dogs in front of you!
The sire & dam of the litter will have the MOST impact on
the pups. If either of them are weak/spooky etc, don't expect
much more than that from your puppy. YES>> you will be 
able to drag that puppy all over and socialize/expose him to
everything under the sun, but you are simply masking over
what he comes from. 

So I can break it down a little more clearly for you maywood,
it doesn't matter if a puppy comes from a litter with 8 grandparents
who have been to/won the BSP etc, if the actual sire & dam of the 
litter are spooks, don't expect the rest of the famous names to be
able to overcome the sire & dam.

I'm done, this is just like chasing my tail.
I'm going to go wake up my puppy and take him out to play.

Thank God for Gustav and people like him..maybe the gsd has a chance after all.. To Debby: yes, unfortunately we have an extremely popular DDR line here in the Midwest that is well known among people who work their dogs to produce weak nerves (you learn a lot hanging out at the right Sch club week after week ;). There are people building breeding programs around these dogs. You will notice none of these dogs are Sch/IPO titled. I am coming out of lurkerdom to make this statement as I keep hearing people say "but there are so many around they must be good!". They are not good, they have a great PR department. You and I talked on the phone a few years ago..maybe we should have another conversation soon :)

I would love that Valerie! I really do need a working line male that is as strong as some of these folks say they can be and it just gets so frustrating to go through 4 dogs/puppies with GREAT pedigrees and get something that is less than my show dogs!  Call anytime!
Debby

I think daryl said it best.


BUt i just want to say.

Dic a lot of these so called overly confident dogs you speak of won't do anything in face of a real threat either. A dog with social aggression is still good in public if its a strong confident dog you only see that social aggression when you ask the dog to show it OR a decoy triggers that aggression.  Dogs that dont react to decoy are usually dogs that wont do crap in real situations either.  JMHO.