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by Keith Grossman on 03 August 2012 - 00:08
by Dobermannman on 03 August 2012 - 01:08
Thomas Barriano
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by Keith Grossman on 03 August 2012 - 01:08
Again I will ask; why would such a self-proclaimed, world class dog trainer waste his time building webpage after webpage critical of other people rather than share his knowledge of dogs to help people who might benefit from his experience and wisdom? That question answers itself.
by Dobermannman on 03 August 2012 - 01:08
You seem to have some sort of obsession with Steve Leigh? Are you upset because more people think he's funny and is a better dog trainer then you'll ever be?
How many times are you going to avoid the question?
How many GSD's have you Schutzhund titled in the "30 years you've been in the sport"
The topic isn't Steve Leigh.
Thomas Barriano
Dubheasa Germania (11/05/99-08/11/08) SchH III M R Brevet AKC WD III
AWD 1 STP 1 CD WAC TT
Ascomannis Jago (06/20/03) SchH III AKC WD III AWD I TT WAC
Belatucadrus (08/14/05) DS BH TT MR I
Flannchadh von der Bavarianburg (5/21/08) TT IPO I STP I
by Keith Grossman on 03 August 2012 - 02:08
By teaching them how to beat the .... out of their dogs? You are such weak little men. I haven't helped a single person but I have helped several hundred dogs. While it might have involved some fairly harsh corrections, especially in the eyes of the "gentle leader" crowd, it never involved abusing any dog until it shit itself. And here's a clue...never once was I ever proud of coming down hard on a dog...never once would I imagine bragging about it and never once did I not question whether or not I could probably have handled it in a more humane manner.
"You seem to have some sort of obsession with Steve Leigh? Are you upset because more people think he's funny and is a better dog trainer then you'll ever be?"
No, you do. If Steve is such a great trainer, why did his business fail? All of the people he criticizes are still training dogs and are still profitable.
"How many times are you going to avoid the question? How many GSD's have you Schutzhund titled in the '30 years you've been in the sport.'"
I never said more than 30 years in the sport, I said more than 30 years in the breed; learn to read. And I answered the question; none. How many have you or how many has Steve? Your watered down schutzhund routines for your spindly legged Dobermanns impresses no one.
How many police departments use Dobermanns? Oh, that's right...none!
If you'll excuse me, I've got some skydiving friends who I haven't seen in a while who are encouraging me to come out and jump with them before the season ends. They are infinitely more interesting than you are.
by Bellowood on 03 August 2012 - 03:08
by Dobermannman on 03 August 2012 - 03:08
"helped hundreds of dog" do what? Trot around a breed ring? Are you one of those showline fools that have helped ruin the breed?
His business didn't fail. He retired for health reasons (leukemia)
Well I finally got an answer....ZERO, NADA, NONE GSD's titled.
"Watered down Schutzhund routine" LMAO Yeah Gross Man a watered down routine that none of YOUR dogs have ever done in THIRTY years. There are actually a few Dobermanns working as Police K9s, even a few in the US but I'll let you deal with your lack of education about them.
OH Geez not ANOTHER reference to "I'm a sky diver".
This is a dog list not a parachutist list.....how hard is that to understand.
It doesn't take any special courage or talent to jump out of a perfectly good plane and pull a rip cord. You read about senior citizens doing it on their birthdays. Maybe you can work on your door opening skills to impress the ladies ? Assuming that's the way you roll and you're not inclinded to pull your sky diving buddies "rip cords" ROTFLMAO
Thomas Barriano
by Keith Grossman on 03 August 2012 - 04:08
Oh, look; there's that clever second grade shit again!
"'helped hundreds of dog' do what? Trot around a breed ring? Are you one of those showline fools that have helped ruin the breed?"
Helped hundreds of dogs of all breeds who were in shelters and rescues and incorrectly identified as aggressive. What have you ever done for any dog that didn't put a dollar in your pocket,
"His business didn't fail. He retired for health reasons (leukemia)"
Yes, it did...long before he was ever diagnosed.
"Watered down Schutzhund routine" LMAO Yeah Gross Man a watered down routine that none of YOUR dogs have ever done in THIRTY years. There are actually a few Dobermanns working as Police K9s, even a few in the US but I'll let you deal with your lack of education about them.
School us , which police departments are those, exactly? Please provide links to their websites showing those Dobes. Can you provide even one major metropolitain area that primarily uses dobes as their K9's? No...because they don't exist. Maybe they're good for fat guys like you; law enforcement tends to want real dogs.
"It doesn't take any special courage or talent to jump out of a perfectly good plane and pull a rip cord. You read about senior citizens doing it on their birthdays. Maybe you can work on your door opening skills to impress the ladies ? Assuming that's the way you roll and you're not inclinded to pull your sky diving buddies "rip cords" ROTFLMAO"
Aw, did I hurt your feelings?
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by Keith Grossman on 03 August 2012 - 04:08
by hexe on 03 August 2012 - 06:08
I gave up engaging in any form of debate or discussion with that individual years ago, when he was still posting on working dog email lists. It is fruitless to try and do something of that nature with someone who is mentally ill and not receiving any treatment or therapy for it, and who has no wish to gain command of that illness...it is just an exercise in frustration for both parties in such situations.
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