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by Paul Garrison on 21 March 2013 - 20:03

If you have a dog that is "prepotent"  it can seem that everything you breed it to is great. But you will see both of them again, the good and the bad. Maybe not in their litters but in the litters down the road. It would behoove the breeder to not breed that dog to everything under the sun for the better for the breed.
 

darylehret

by darylehret on 21 March 2013 - 22:03

Speaking of "G" rated dogs, how has Bomber produced in terms of pairings with dogs of lesser structure? His pedigree has a few more "G"s than I'd care to see, personally, and though he's a gorgeous dog, I'm curious as to whether his progeny typically resemble his structure. His ancestors were often paired V with G it appears, so just wondering if anyone can comment yet, in general, what structure has been like. I looked through his listed progeny and most are not rated or at least no one has updated their PDB page with the info.


Rather than the fuzzy perspective of G ratings, consider V ratings.
Among winSiS listed Bomber V rated offspring...
38% are from V rated dams, two of which are full siblings
38% are from SG rated dams
8% are from G rated dams
15% dams were unrated themselves

On a sidenote, of Bomber's G rated offspring, 24% were from V rated dams
There were litters  out of G rated dams where one sibling got a G while another got a V
There were litters  out of V rated dams where one sibling got a G while another got a V

If theres a distinct pattern to be found, it's beyond me at the moment.  The ratings used in an "overall" sense understandably fail to describe an individual producer's particular characteristics that go into the judges criteria.  Even then, when predicting a litter's outcome, the results can be varied among littermates, on account of prepotency factor.  Genetic prepotency and litter uniformity occurs when linebred dogs breed linebred dogs, or at least, when breeder selection has been unfailingly consistent through generations.

kitkat3478

by kitkat3478 on 23 March 2013 - 04:03

Well it is my understanding that Parrish's main goal for and with Bomber is to breed for his goals and get the lines going that he wants.
He is after breeding to develope dogs that he wants. He knows what characteristics and.traits he wants to bring out.
He has got some very nice dogs, carefully selected, I'm sure produce what HE wants in the breed.
He has some very influental people involved in his venture.
I am sure it is not a priority for him to stud this dog out. And yes, "the betterment of the breed" is what I imagine he is after.
Those that.say,yeah, the dog is nice,but..... what if .... are you really kidding.
In my opinion, whatever dog is bred to Bomber will improve upon the offspring.
Here you have a dog V rated,excellent temperment, can definately work and is rather pleasant to the eye. You are not going to get all perfect pups out of every litter.
You would naturally, hold back your best for breeding.
It don't happen overnight .
I bet we are going to see some real nice "working dogs" coming from this kennel.
This guy has a plan . He offered the dog for stud to give others the opportunity to improve on what they have.
This dog was obtained by Parrish to pursue. And create the dogs he finds worthy. I know I will have myself a Bomber son

by troopscott on 23 March 2013 - 09:03

I am not an expert on dog breeding have never even bred a dog, (my cat got out when she was in heat once though and did have a litter of kittens).  That being said I have bred numerous horses (thoroughbreds) and in thoroughbred breeding their are some horses who are known as really good broodmare sires and their offspring make for excellent breeding mares but the males they produce do not always live up to expectations.  The greatest example of this would be the great Secretariat.  His daughters produced some of the finest male and female race horses there are.  Are there some breeding lines that produce good females but not males or good males but the females offspring are not good or is this not even tracked because of the sheer number of dogs beeing bred?  I see a lot of people on this thread saying I will have a bomber son so it makes me wonder if his females are lacking something or if it is just a sex preference. 

Thanks for any insight you can offer

by Paul Garrison on 23 March 2013 - 11:03

Troopscott
The why does everyone want a male question is because the males have become competition males. 2 of them are in the US nationals team this year. The females are being used for breeding, there were a couple on the BSP team this year, and I bet many more to come.
Gary Hanrahan has two daughters and one son of Bomber.

From what I have read and seen, all have been real happy with both males and females. I want a great male for my personal dog, but would rather have a great female because they are harder to find in any breeding program. My female is the nicest 5 mo old I female have ever laid my eyes on.

by troopscott on 23 March 2013 - 11:03

Thanks Paul. 

by JustaGrinder on 04 April 2013 - 01:04

I have never posted on here before, but after reading this thread I could not help but break my silence.  I know a little bit about Parrish so I’m going to attempt to answer the OP’s question.  I’ll leave the, “is Bomber worthy?” and “which dog is better?” insanity to someone else.

I met Parrish many years ago while playing poker in NE Oklahoma.  At the time we were both playing professionally and Parrish was raising dogs on the side.  It didn’t take long before he was beating the biggest games around and he decided to take on the games in Vegas.  If you have ever watched a poker show on t.v. then you have surely heard of the Big Game at the Bellagio.  It is a cash game that is regularly played by poker legends like Doyle Brunson, and superstars like Phil Ivey.  While Parrish was playing regularly in this game he had the highest win/loss record of any player for that year.  Poker is a game that takes great skill, intelligence, and patience.  So let’s just say that regularly beating the Big Game takes a person that is smarter than the average bear.

In May 2011 a tornado hit our hometown of Joplin, destroying half the city and killing 161 people.  Parrish and his dog Jody worked tirelessly during search and rescue and Jody found more bodies than any other SAR dog.  I was also working in the disaster left by the tornado, and I saw many SAR dogs and heard many stories.  None compared to Parrish and Jody.  Not only was Parrish and Jody’s picture on the front page of the Joplin Globe, it was on the front page of papers around the world.  Our governor gave Parrish a resolution declaring him a state treasure.

Now, why am I telling you all of this?  First of all Parrish is not breeding dogs in order to get rich.  He has had many other lucrative opportunities in life that he has put on hold in order to focus on his dogs.  If he just wanted money, he would still be killing the Big Game in Vegas.  If he just wanted money, he would not have turned down the $50K profit he has already been offered for Bomber.  He is also not filthy rich as some have suggested.  He is simply a hard working man that loves dogs and desperately wants to better the breed of the GSD.

Which leads to my second point.  After the tornado Parrish realized how important good dogs are and was more determined than ever to produce those dogs.  He is extremely intelligent, knows what genetics he is looking for, and has a knack for pairing dogs that bring out the working qualities he is looking for.  You say you want proof that Parrish knows good dogs?  I can’t think of better proof than Jody.  Parrish actually USES his dogs.  He doesn’t just breed and title as fast as possible in order to make a quick profit.

For those questioning his decisions, Parrish is a no nonsense, no b.s., no drama kind of guy.  From what I’ve seen, this thread is filled with plenty of b.s. and more drama than soap operas and reality t.v. combined.  I find it interesting that most of the people making negative comments are doing so as a way to promote their own dog/kennel.  Parrish is determined to use Bomber to better the breed while he is still alive and able to do so.  And he is going to do it in the manner he sees best – without drama. 

I have been to Parrish’s kennel and I have seen Bomber with my own eyes and let me tell you that Bomber is a STUD.  He is a stud amongst studs.  And I am very proud to say that I am in line for a Catty / Bomber pup.  I have absolutely no question whether this puppy will be worthy or not, the biggest question is if I am worthy to handle such a great dog.  Luckily I have the guys at Spitzenhund Kennels to help me out with that.

As a poker player one of my talents is sitting down at a table and quickly recognizing winners from losers.  I can tell you that Parrish is a winner and he will leave his mark on the genetics of GSD’s for future generations, and you will see some outstanding dogs coming out of his kennel in the next few years.  Mark. My. Words.

- SEAN
 

vomeisenhaus

by vomeisenhaus on 04 April 2013 - 16:04

Great Post above....

Slamdunc

by Slamdunc on 04 April 2013 - 17:04

Kurt, I agree.  Excellent post, Justagrinder.

by JustaGrinder on 05 April 2013 - 00:04

Thank You Vomeisenhaus and Slamdunc.





 


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