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by Kevin Nance on 04 March 2013 - 17:03

To further address Bubba's point regarding "following the rules."

Herr Henke was arguably (by me) capricious and lacking due diligence in issuing his mandate.

From the WUSV Constitution regarding discipline of members:

Disciplinary Measures, Notice



  1. (1)  In order to guarantee for it ́s efforts and for the keeping its internal and external order, the WUSV takes measures against member asso- ciations, who culpably violate the constituti- ons, regulations and aims of the WUSV.

  2. (2)  The decisions on the measures to be taken are made by the Members’ Meeting upon re- quest of a member association or the Mana- ging Board. Reasons are to be given for such requests. 

    In other words it is the WUSV membership at the annual meeting that authorizes the sanctions articulated in the Henke letter not an individual without review or oversight.

    Further, there is nothing in the WUSV constitution involving discipline or member relations that gives authority to "dictate" fee structures from its members.

    All a violation of the "rules" Bubba so passionately espouses.

    USCA has a board of which I am a member that acts on behalf of the interests of our membership as articulated by the rules they vote upon.

    Should we violate that trust or expectations, it shows during the next election cycle or charges may be brought forth in the interim through the Board of Inquiry for redress.

    We are adamant about Bubba's rules and will consider diligently our associations with others who are not.

    All of the above are just one USCA board member's opinion.  The ultimate direction our organization takes will be decided upon by Mr. Alloway and the collective board as a reflection of the will of our membership.

    Respectfuly to all,

    Kevin Nance

     



EliDog

by EliDog on 04 March 2013 - 18:03

I suggest you all buy plane tickets and make an appointment with the WUSV and plead your case face to face...that way when they tell you the exact same thing all you self-appointed guardians of the GSD can tell them right there to pound sand instead fo doing it here and on a closed Yahoo group.

God I love karma...lol.


Keith

by vonwaldhimmel on 04 March 2013 - 21:03

After the JA amendment I let my membership with USCA go after 12 + years of membership.  I have a hard time understanding how anyone would want to belong to an organization that has the attitude "you can only be with our club if you promise not to belong to the WDA club".  Now that would make "a little sense if it had anything to do with board members etc. ...  but, of course, it does not.

The same USCA people post here over & over ... I think they like to hear themselves talk.

The letter sent to the SV by USCA didn't sound at all like the posters here ... the one sent in late December.  The March 1st letter (s) are very clear as well ......

With all that is going on in the world doesn't this seem a little .... crazy?

USCA should break apart.  They should rip up their AKC papers and pedigrees ... form their "super club" and stand alone.  Build your "field of dreams" ... train your dogs and your members the way you think is best .... move on.

For those of us that do not like to be told what to do and feel like we live in America for a reason ... we will support the club (s) of our choice.

I know someone posted something similiar earlier ... but "bye bye".

Off to the Post Office to request a refund for my duplicate scorebook.

 






OGBS

by OGBS on 04 March 2013 - 22:03

VonWaldhimmel,
You don't like anyone in this country telling you what you can do, but, you are okay with someone overseas telling you what you can do?
Please explain the logic???


by vonwaldhimmel on 04 March 2013 - 22:03

Geez .... sorry you can't put that together for yourself!!

You are an example of why 1 or 2 posts per subject should be it Wink Smile

The SV (and yes I am a member too) does not care if I am a member with USCA, WDA or DVG ... they do not tell me to drop my membership with anyone else after 12 years if I want to keep it.

The SV has alot to offer .... sadly USCA  (for me) - not so much ... but I think you found your match Shades Smile  





OGBS

by OGBS on 04 March 2013 - 23:03

"The SV (and yes I am a member too) does not care if I am a member with USCA, WDA or DVG ... they do not tell me to drop my membership with anyone else after 12 years if I want to keep it."

But, they did tell anyone that joined RSV-2000 that they could not belong to the SV.
People that belonged to the SV for 30, 40, 50 years.

You are an example of why you shouldn't post unless you know what you are talking about. Wink Smile

susie

by susie on 04 March 2013 - 23:03

A dark episode of the SV...but legally correct as long as RSV2000 wasn´t recognized by VDH.
RSV2000 is recognized now, double membership IS possible, taking part in trials is possible, too.
Personnaly I hate the split, it´s not good for the breed.
Working together is always better than working against each other.

OGBS

by OGBS on 04 March 2013 - 23:03

@ vonwaldhimmel,
I am truly just joking about that. I couldn't help it.
It was too easily set up!
Regular Smile

by vonwaldhimmel on 04 March 2013 - 23:03

If I lived in Germany and belonged to the RSV 2000 for 12 years and valued them  ........ I would have done the same thing.

I live in AMERICA ... where we are free to make choices.  I belong to two clubs that do not have an issue with each other.  USCA does ... they have alot of issues.  Why does your President not send letters that reflect how the members on here of USCA are posting?  Confusing?  Perhaps the SV has alot to offer the USCA too ....

I'm glad you found USCA    Shades Smile    I'm glad those of us that prefer to make our own choices have found another club or two with alot to offer.  

Everyone has their own opinion ... hearing yours over & over doesn't change it Wink Smile



OGBS

by OGBS on 04 March 2013 - 23:03

That is correct about living in America and the freedom to make a choice.
UScA is also in America and has the freedom to choose it's own rules.
If you don't like the rules don't join, AND, don't participate in our events.
See how easy that is!

Why is it okay for the people you side with to keep posting, but, according to you, not me???
I can post as long as I so choose, or the owner, or a moderator of the web site chooses.

The other thing I don't understand is if those other clubs offer you so much, why do you need UScA?
Maybe not you personally, I don't know, but why do WDA Members need UScA?









 


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