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Cesna

by Cesna on 27 February 2013 - 23:02

Donna has not fulfill the signed purchase contract and has breached stipulations within the signed contract.  I will not release anything to her until this matter has been settled.  I have never had to deal with such as person as Donna Lampson, and will never allow such a person to purchase any of my dogs again.  

LOVE THY SHEPHERD

by LOVE THY SHEPHERD on 27 February 2013 - 23:02

To bcrawford, I'm sorry but there have been many posts on this subject and is lengthy
I won't go back into it again.  Except to say, the seller was to give me the AKC papers when
I drove the 5 + hours each way to pick her up.  I din't know till later that she still to this day
hasn't reg this female.

As to Cesna.  YOU said our contract is  "null and void "  because I came on here and
complained.  Fine our contract  IS  null and void.
Why  don't you tell people the  f   &*(&^&*%%  truth and that before I purchased her I
was getting the AKC papers, cause I never would have purchased a dog without them
in hand.  You lied !!  I drove all that way to get her and she was also missing another
paper.  I scanned thru the folder you gave me and you were on your way.  I didn't realize
my AKC papers weren't even in the folder till I got  home the  next day. 

I specifically told you I wanted AKC papers, like any other person would want.  I asked
you in more than one email before I purchased her.  Your response,   " yes, full AKC"

by bcrawford on 28 February 2013 - 00:02

If you were lied to then that is a whole different story. However, money should have not changed hands before you verified the required documents. If you were mislead -- that is understanding but also as a consumer it sounds like you made a poor business decision.


by bcrawford on 28 February 2013 - 00:02

@Cesna - Hi. I take it you were the seller of the dog? Do you care to share what side of agreement has not been satisfied and what it would take to satisfy it?

Or is it even saveable at this point? It always usually comes down to money and/or a breakdown in communication in most cases. Are you still owed?


Cesna

by Cesna on 28 February 2013 - 00:02

Of course you would have gotten the AKC papers.  I have the email stating that everything was in order to get them.  You did breach the signed contract and there are consequences for doing so.  I will use the signed, legal contract, and we will be going to court in Colorado over this matter.  I have never lied to or mislead anyone regarding paperwork.  You were very well aware of the situation.  Furthermore, you did not pay for the transport charges as stated in the purchase contract, therefore, the AKC will not release any paperwork to you until the Colorado courts have made their ruling.  It is up to you regarding how long you would like to wait for me to release the paperwork to you.  You just keep going and going and going.  Perhaps you should be figuring out how to fulfill the purchase contract in order to receive the AKC paperwork from me.

I never should have released Farah to you without payment in full.  That is the part which I blame myself.  

I will not elaborate on the details, except that which is posted above.  My attorney has all of the documents and paperwork has been filed in Colorado regarding the situation.  I did not come to these boards or try to contract anyone regarding the situation that the buyer did not fulfill the signed purchase contract.  The buyer has come to these boards to complain and go on and on about the situation, when all she needed to do was fulfill the contract.  

LOVE THY SHEPHERD

by LOVE THY SHEPHERD on 28 February 2013 - 00:02

OMG  There you go again, never answer questions regarding you, or  you lie !!

I like the one person asking you directly about this.  Yes, I was lied to !  Yes I paid for her
upfront.  Yes, I was told I'd get AKC papers.   No I would not have driven 10 freaking  hours
to pick her up, to save you time if you didn't have her papers in hand.  Are u guys even getting
this.  Who in their right mind would do this ?   NOT ME  This is what I've been saying all along.

She refuses to answer.     DO U RIGHT NOW HAVE THE AKC PAPERS IN HAND FOR FARAH ?

We do NOT HAVE A CONTRACT, SO QUIT TELLING PEOPLE WE DO.

by bcrawford on 28 February 2013 - 00:02

If anything was signed and witnessed then there is a contract. -- with that said ..

This is me ASSuming just by reading but I see it that the seller feels owed a shipping reimbursment and the buyer disagrees?

Cesna

by Cesna on 28 February 2013 - 00:02

Ask any attorney, as I have asked mine...  Just because you breach a contract does not make it null and void.  It is still a legal contract that can be used in any court system.  It doesn't just go away...  If that were true then the sale of the dog would be null and void and you would have to return the dog and I would give back the monies paid for her.  That includes any nulling any paperwork promised within the sale.

The amout owed is $350.  Yes, horrible amount to have to pay for transportation.  However, now we are in some other circumstances that will take place in the court system. 

by bcrawford on 28 February 2013 - 00:02

@Cesna -- Hopefully those circumstanses will not need to be acted on.

Again, I'm assuming a lot and I'm not trying to be nosy (I have grown tired of reading the posts about this).. You have a piece of paper that has your signature (Seller) and her signature (buyer) that reads in some verbage more or less that "For xxxxx amount of dollars total" Regardless of it was xxx for the GSD and xxx for shipping or simply a total. Were you paid for that total amount? Or a part of that total amount?

Cesna

by Cesna on 28 February 2013 - 00:02

We have a signed sale contract stating the sale of the dog and also stating that the buyer is responsible for any and all shipping/transportation charges.  Buyer could not afford the airline or pet ground transportation charges, so I told her that the dog could travel in the dog trailer as we traveled to the North American Sieger Show.  The fuel charges from point A to point B came to be $350.  Buyer said she forgot her checkbook, and I trusted her to send the monies for the transportation charges.  She knew full well that I could not estimate the fuel charges and left it to me to add it all up.  I kept the dog an extra 3 weeks in my kennel until the time of the show, and did not charge boarding.  

So, this is the situation and what is owed.  But as stated previously, we now are in some other issues created by the buyer.





 


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