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by GSDPACK on 12 May 2013 - 13:05

I disagree, they can get a nice look into their capability to compete at various events. If the team gets only one event out of three... it is a nice eye opener for the competitor to asses their ability to represent the country. We all can look at it as we want.

Good it is not about quantity but quality and I wish good luck to all. It takes a lot of work and a great team to represent the USA in the WUSV. It will be a good one this year I hope!

by wallacepayne on 12 May 2013 - 15:05

Charles of Hard Kandee aka Bubbabooboo,
  Now that I know the face behind the alias ( You know who I am ) we can talk on the same playing field!  Maybe when I see you at a event some time in the future we can have a face to face talk about our points of view.  Or, better yet I'm in the Chapel Hill area once or twice a year maybe we can have lunch,  my treat!   However, you have your facts wrong the idea to send competitors to the qualification trial was WDA's and WDA (after many complaints from it's own members and competitors) saw where it was best to uphold the integrity of the sport.   As I said my hats off to them.

On another note, everyone know why I had a problem with UScA when I decided to leave a few years ago, and everyone know I'm glad to be back in UScA and why I came back.  I have no hard feelings towards GSDCA-WDA.   You on the other hand,  have a lot of hostility towards UScA and no one understand why?  You like to bring up old news,  you like to talk about what the WUSV had to make UScA do.  But like I said that's Old News.  UScA either by force or by design are now following the WUSV rules.  This post was to inform people of what was going to happen to the integrity of the sport in this country nothing more.   Like I also said Charles I would love to have a face to face.

bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 12 May 2013 - 16:05

Again the story comes filtered through you and the USCA spin machine Wallace.  Perhaps the GSDCA-WDA should run their business and you and/or the USCA should run yours.  You started this entire post before the GSDCA-WDA made any announcement about their WUSV qualification  team and what you posted turned out to be entirely wrong when they announced their plans.  Once the GSDCA-WDA announced their plans you credited yourself with what turned out to be exactly what the GSDCA-WDA always does and that is "follows the rules".  It seems your pencils have no erasers and the GSDCA or GSDCA-WDA is always wrong in your version of events even when they do what is right.  The USCA has not done anything right toward the GSDCA or GSDCA-WDA in a very long time.  The dual membership rule continues which is an example of USCA sportsmanship that apparently the membership agrees with or they lack the will or integrity to repeal it.  As far as you go .. you have been an all caps screamer and entirely critical of the GSDCA and the GSDCA-WDA so if my pointing out that the USCA has been a bunch of little bullies who had their butts spanked by the WUSV is an annoyance .. good ..  that is what I intended it to be.  The USCA is constantly telling complete lies such as the WUSV asked the USCA to consider the GSDCA-WDA as a member of the WUSV which was posted on the USCA web site.  The WUSV board and all other WUSV members in the world never stopped including the GSDCA-WDA as a WUSV member for the entire time the USCA MADE A POLITICAL CHOICE recorded in their board minutes to break the rules.  It was and continues to be a lie that the GSDCA-WDA has not been a CONTINUOUS member of the WUSV.  I believe that was pointed out in the WUSV ultimatum letter to the USCA.   As far as calling me out I could care less about you and a bus load of USCA members.  Unfortunately I haven't been to Chapel Hill in years .. if you want to have a duel for honors sake I choose shotguns at 25 feet at high noon.  That is what cowboys do isn't it?? You speak of honor but you are a member of an organization that has none.  USCA members are not welcome at my residence (could be a conflict of interest obviously) and I have no need of the USCA in any regard ever.  Spare me from the sportsmanship and generosity of the USCA that now will charge GSDCA-WDA members a combined $50 surcharge for any USCA event they enter when the GSDCA-WDA has thus far never refused any score book with SV judges scores and never charged a surcharge even when the USCA was breaking the WUSV rules by refusing their scorebooks.  There are almost 316,834 million people in the USA and I believe I can work with the 316,831 million that remain after I subtract the less than 3000 USCA members.  I breed, train and care for my dogs as I see fit and I need no permission or patronage from you or the USCA.  I ask no quarter and I give none where my dogs and privacy are concerned however.

by wallacepayne on 12 May 2013 - 16:05

Charles,
  We will meet,  outside of your residence!

bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 12 May 2013 - 18:05

Wallace .. Save the we are wearing the white hats and riding a white horse crap for somebody who will believe it.  The USCA hasn't changed a bit ..  just looking for new ways to cheat!!  Surcharges for GSDCA-WDA and the AWDF members. What a hoot!!  If the membership had done what was right  without an ultimatum from the WUSV that might have been grounds for new hope that the USCA would stop acting only in their own selfish interest but I see Alloway is continuing the long tradition of lies, half truths, and sins of omission that the USCA bases their organization and politics on.  I think the initials are correct .. USCA but the words are wrong, it should be United Scutzhund Clubs of Arrogance, " For Us and only Us" !!. I read the ultimatum letter from the WUSV to Alloway and I missed the word "please".  No I believe I will continue to voice my opinion about the "spin machine" that the USCA runs.  I am sure there are many people within the organization that keep silent because they know that the innocent will be punished if they don't stay on message.  My target audience is those who think about joining the USCA .. they should know what passes for the truth in the USCA before they join. 

by wallacepayne on 12 May 2013 - 19:05

Charles,
   I wear a Black Hat with South Metro Atlanta Schutzhund Club and it's logo on it.  I have you to know you are missing your target, people are leaving every week.   I know who you are and what you do, (Breed GSD's) but how do you expect others will repect and listen to anything you have to say.......Charles "Better Known As"  Bubbabulls*@#!  My bad, booboo.  Booboo was Yogi Bears sidekick, Booboo was something I had to say as a child when I had to tell my mother I had to take a S*@#!  Booboo in this case is a cowards way of speaking his mind!     

bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 12 May 2013 - 19:05

Now that's better, the real Wallace and the real USCA comes out.  I guess this means lunch is off?? LOL!!  I could care less if you or any of your USCA "good ole boys" ever respect me.  The price of loyalty to the USCA is too high for me to pay!!  I have already had veiled threats .. it just let's me know that I am hitting the right nerves.  I will take you off my potential customer list and now I have 317 million less 1.

by SitasMom on 14 May 2013 - 21:05

WDA National Championship Rules 2013
Note GSDCA or WDA membership was not required to enter, but to continue to the National Qualification Trail only GSDCA and or WDA membership was required.

Event Rules
  • The complete rules and regulations can be found on the GSDCA-WDA website in the 'GSDCA-WDA Trial Regulations' and 'IPO Rules' documents.
  • A dog/handler team must have a SchH3/VPG3 or IPO3 qualifying score of 250 with at least 80 points in each phase earned with the same team and within one (1) year of the calendar date of the national event at a GSDCA-WDA Club Trial, Regional Trial, National Universal Sieger Championship or at the previous year's Championship Qualifier. Regional trial winners with a passing score will automatically qualify to enter the Championship.
  • You can compete for the next level title at this event. To compete for IPO3, your dog must have already achieved a SchH3/VPG3 or IPO3 title and met the criteria above.
  • Download the WUSV Team Rules and Regulations
  • Download the Qualification Trial Protocol for the Selection of the USA WUSV World Championship Team
  • See the Practice page for practice rules
  • The qualifying criteria regarding the B-H.O.T. - H.O.T. Program can be found on the GSDCA-WDA website at B-H.O.T. Title & H.O.T. Title
  • The GSDCA-WDA National Universal Sieger Championship Rules can be found on the GSDCA-WDA NUSC website at GSDCA-WDA National Universal Sieger Championship Rules (updated for 2013 event)
  • The Breed Survey Rules can be found on the GSDCA-WDA NUSC website at Breed Survey Rules
SUMMARY OF TRIAL ENTRY REQUIREMENTS:
IPO3 & FH CHAMPIONSHIP REQUIREMENTS IPO1 & IPO2 REQUIREMENTS
Handler must be a member in good standing of GSDCA and GSDCA-WDA (or a pending member) Entry does not require GSDCA-WDA or GSDCA membership; however IPO1 & IPO2 Champion must be GSDCA-WDA members
Dog must be AKC registered (or pending) GSD Dog does not have to be AKC registered
GSD must be free of disqualifying faults as outlined in the Breed Standard Any registered GSD may enter
All handlers must be a resident of the United States Handler may be a resident of any country

Please note that Non-WDA and Non-GSDCA members may compete in this event. However, they would not be eligible to represent the GSDCA or GSDCA-WDA at the WUSV World Championships. The National IPO Champion, FH Champion, Universal Sieger and Universal Siegerin will be the highest scoring WDA members.


by SitasMom on 14 May 2013 - 22:05

In 2011 the UScA and WDA - HAD - a joint agreement stating the requirements for participation...min of 270 and at least 80 in protection.
The agreement was for two years and has expired. No new agreement has been negotiated. Usca offered that wda could just send their top 10.
However, the competitors were upset because they prepared for the nationals under the rules that stated t
oo 10 with a 270 or better.


 

bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 14 May 2013 - 23:05

I would like to see the USCA and the GSDCA-WDA pick their 10 team members for the WUSV qualifier however they choose in 2014.  If the USCA members have three chances to make the 270 score that does not result in a better or more consistent WUSV team getting chosen as a handler/dog team could zero out in one leg at two different trials and then make their 270+ at the third or even worse make a 175, a 270 and then a 170.  Either everyone gets the same number of chances (one closest to the qualifier) to make their USCA or GSDCA-WDA WUSV qualifier teams or the organizations pick their qualifier teams however they choose.  Perhaps we should average the scores of the USCA members at all the qualifiers they participated in to get a more realistic picture about quality versus high scores only.  In reality the score that matters most is the one closest to the WUSV qualifier date unless as in the case of some potential entrants they were unable to compete because of injuries.  The current arrangement (and that is what it is) is neither fair nor does it result in the best possible team members for the WUSV team getting chosen as I understand it.  I am sure some of you will enlighten me if I am misinformed???





 


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