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by Gustav on 09 August 2013 - 20:08

No right, no wrong,...just preferences! Good ownership is good ownership, and bad ownership is bad ownership whether indoors or out!

erin j

by erin j on 09 August 2013 - 20:08

  I think this is one of these issues that is purely decided on personal preference.. There are pros and cons of both methods of keeping dogs.. Get the advice of good trainers, weigh what options you have, use common sense.. As long as you are providing your dog with proper care, attention and training, it's going to be happy.. I've asked a lot of questions on this site, and it's great getting the opinions and knowledge of such experienced trainers and owners!!

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 09 August 2013 - 20:08

My opinion about this is not a personal preference.

erin j

by erin j on 09 August 2013 - 20:08

It's your personal preference to keep your dog the way you want to. It's not like a mathematical equation that has a definite answer. I don't believe there has been a scientific based study on outdoor vs indoor, reflection on the mental and physical health of dogs, with a proved finding. Sure people with years of experience, base their opinion on dog rearing on their own personal experiences. Even top, successful trainers have differences of opinion.. I was just stating that people, trainers, vets, breeders ect, will all have their own beliefs and opinions on this subject, and  the person should weigh all advice, and make the decision based on their own preference.. 

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 09 August 2013 - 21:08

No,
It's not a preference.
Raising animals correctly is based on time proven knowledge, if you can't find data to support that your looking in the wrong places.
Each animal is different and has different needs.
Yes there are different opinions but there are only a few that stand the test of time.



 

erin j

by erin j on 09 August 2013 - 21:08

That's why I said the owner should educate themselves, ask questions, get advice from different sources and make a decision on what they prefer for their household, and dog. They are the only ones that know their households, and their dog and what they want from their dog. For me, I want companions, so yes I keep mine inside and out.. I am not, in no way claiming to know how a person should raise their dogs. All I was saying was I would educate myself with different sources of information, take it all into consideration, and make an informed decision, based on what I felt right.. Also to me, when someone claims to have all the answers, and to know best over anyone, makes me think twice about said person. I have owned animals my entire life, and I still am learning new things. People should always ask questions, educate themselves..

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 09 August 2013 - 21:08

That is your preference.
Remove preference and think for a minute just about the animal and say which is better for the animal.
I'm not going on about who keeps their dogs where, I'm saying a life outdoors is natural and much better for the German Shepherd Dog.







 

erin j

by erin j on 10 August 2013 - 04:08

Oh crap. Let me wake my dogs up, kick them out the door!! Because, dang they sure don't seem content and happy, sleeping away on their beds.. But from the tone of some's posts, a GSD that isn't hard core, isn't really a GSD, so maybe I own poodles in disguise of GSDs.. Like I stand by, it's what the owner of dog prefers.. If it is a companion, household pet, the dog will not require the training, and conditioning a competing dog will.. If the dog is receiving proper care and training, I don't think where dog is kept really matters much... You will get out of your animal, what you put into it, no matter where dog is housed.

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 10 August 2013 - 04:08

Moons, maybe you are being a trifle pedantic ?   Can we go
back to EXACTLY what you mean by keeping dogs / GSDs
​almost 'entirely' outside, but not usually kennelled ?
 
If the owner has the lifestyle of a German shepherd (pun
intended), out on the fields all day, every day;  possibly not
even going home to a house every night, just kipping down
in some sort of bothy or under the stars, walking miles each
day, then that is what the GSDog was bred for, and I would
agree with you that this is the ultimate.  Is that what you mean,
and try to emulate ?    But I don't believe that even Von Stephanitz
would have argued for that lifestyle for the military dogs, much less
any future 'pet' companions.  If he was happy to simply dictate that
his breed should ALWAYS BE WORKED  [something  which
most posters on this thred seem to accept],  but did not proscribe
living methods - other than I think he said somewhere they should
NOT be kept in a kennel 24/7 except when out working - then the rest IS
down to keepers and their particular circumstances, yes ?

I do not think there is anything actually wrong with a dog sleeping in a
kennel and running in a big yard all the time, apart from when it
is with me doing tracking or something -  but if the area I live in
has venamous snakes,  I would not risk either.  The dog would live
indoors.

Assuming not everybody who wants to keep a dog / dogs is retired,
has a substantial private income, or a partner who is at home all day,
are you saying they should not have GSDs ?  Because they would
have to leave the dog to its own devices a bit, within your ideal, and
shit happens ?  I'd be with you on far too many people insist on
keeping dogs whose lifestyle really doesn't support it - but this would
surely be taking that to extremes ?
 

Prager

by Prager on 10 August 2013 - 14:08

Your personal dog should be wherever  your person is.  


Then there is long way nothing. 


And then comes: 
Then ONLY if not at all  possible ( you go to work) then he should be where s/he is  safe and can  not do any damage, comfortable and happy in that order.
Prager Hans





 


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