What color is this puppy? - Page 6

Well, you can't really "prove" it. You could ask the breeder to see the sire and ask why your puppy is AKC registered when there are apparent holes in the pedigree. See what they say and go from there. Be nice about it. See what happens. Or, say he's really changing color and is there perhaps any chance his parents aren't who the breeder thought? Be non-judgmental about it- come across like "accidents happen...but I can't register him as black anymore, so I'm curious........"

If the sire and dam are black and red, how could they produce a sable? Or a black if there are nothing but b/r for generations?
AKC is only as accurate as the information provided by the people filling out the papers.

StormGSD,
If you want to know the color test for A (Agouti) and K Locus and you will know the color for sure (100%). UCDAVIS and I think some others do the tests.
If you want money back from the breeder to return the dog for refund or to correct the pedigree it will be much more costly to you and the breeder. AKC, lawyers and labratories will make the money, and you will probably never know the pedigree or color for sure anyway.

Joan, sire is supposedly black, not black and red. 

Oh, thanks, Jen. This has become rather convoluted, I thought the pup was straight b/r.

I would just love the dog, he is a beautiful boy. If you are thinking you may want to breed him, I probably wouldn't because of the things others have pointed out. You asked for a color and it was given, all the rest is speculation at best until more evidence is known. I am not getting into the sire or the breeding. The breed tests are only around 80.00 and may or may not shed light on the breed but I would go into with an open mind and no preconceived notions that you will have a 100% answer.

Best of luck and if you find out more please come back and update us.

In case you didn´t pay "big bucks" for this puppy, and in case you got a healthy dog with good temperament, I wouldn´t care, but that´s me.
In case you paid more than 600 - 800 Dollars, or the pup is sick, I´d talk to the "breeder", cause at least I would like to get what I paid for...

What´s your personal goal with this ( still cute ) dog, and are you able to achieve these goals with an at least questionable pedigree?
Neither for sport nor for a pet you need to know about the ancestors, you simply need a healthy dog willing to train ( and a possibly 25% Mal/75% GSD cross is not the worst case for sport ).

In case you want to breed this dog later on = a lot of red flags for me.

Keep us updated, your pup looks like a lot of fun, purebred or not!

To the op,unless you bought the pup for breeding purposes or to show in breed, it doesn't really matter what is behind him, does it? As gsdlineage pointed out,the only ones that will make money in a case like this are the lawyers and labs. As for starting stuff with akc about he breeding, yo still need DNA proof. Like I said, akc is only as good as the people filling out the papers.
Fifty years ago, I knew a chihuahua breeder who mixed Pomeranian into her long coats and still registered the offspring as chi's with akc.

Looks like the 3 of us posted at the same time

Lol, Susie, you know what they say about great minds:-) At least we all concur. :-)