Questions Re. Structure and Jumping - Page 7

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by Blitzen on 12 January 2015 - 20:01

vk that's nothing to brag about, it's very careless on your part. If you want to show how much distance your dog can clear on a horizontal jump, at least provide him with a safe venue. 


yogidog

by yogidog on 12 January 2015 - 20:01

V K maybe a stick is not a good toy if lands like he did in the 2 video he dead .lovely dog very athletic good size


by vk4gsd on 12 January 2015 - 20:01

susie, thanksTeeth Smile

would my dog do the IPO obstacles or what, A-frame, 1 m hurdle, LMAO, that's a breed test and so many can't do it, please.

 

even the guys st the pound would be embarrassed to have a dog that could not do the obstacles in IPO.


by joanro on 12 January 2015 - 20:01

Susie, I didn't say they are flattened when they land. Remember my analogy with the breaks being soft an d running out of pedal. That's what I mean about the already squatting fore assembly.

by vk4gsd on 12 January 2015 - 20:01

yogi excellent advice needs repeating often, i was lucky but i regret that now with more knowledge.


by Ibrahim on 12 January 2015 - 20:01

That dog lands on both front feet same moment, too dangerous Teeth Smile

 

 


by joanro on 12 January 2015 - 20:01

Guess vk forgot to explain that to him.:-)

by vk4gsd on 12 January 2015 - 20:01

a long jump is a different style to a vertical, both front legs are maximally extended for reach and the dog/horse leaves the ground at full speed, you see it  in high speed steeple-chase with horses. the mechanics should not be comapred to a vertical jump.

the issue in that pic is the surface on both sides is uneven and loose dirt, also the take off point is not a clear line it is a jagged non-uniform front the dog has to pick a departure point from, the gorund is not even horizontal.

 

much different from a jump on a perfect uniform and flat trial field.


susie

by susie on 12 January 2015 - 20:01

That´s what you said: "Front end which is already flexed when standing leaves not much room to flex further on impact."
The "front end" isn´t flexed, but stretched, during the impact it flexes. Is this understandable?

Jumping upwards needs strong hindquarters, jumping downwards needs well angulated strong forequarters.
Even KNPV stopped the downwards jump and decided to build a ramp instead, because the dogs became injured too often, although most of these dogs only are trained and titled for PH1 only, not further on ( sold ).

We could discuss about overangulated unstable hindquarters in relation to jumping "upwards", but not about forequarters in relation to jumping "downwards".


yogidog

by yogidog on 12 January 2015 - 20:01

cant do it. Wont do it my job to protected thed dog from dangers like that Theirs something wrong with you to put your dog in that danger






 


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