Workinglines vs Showlines - Page 27

"He's in Australia and youre in the south of the U.S."

This is the weakest argument I have seen in a long time to attempt to discredit a member on a board.

If vk can't handle criticism or offer proof of his claims,  maybe he should consider not expecting the same from others?

Who says vk can't handle criticism? Lol
It's templars, aka Drago, making out of line comments based on a question vk asked on a different board which had nothing to do with Drago....being childish.

Never argue pollitics or religion - right? I stopped reading the off topic form here because of vk's belittling every poster who voiced any belief in a higher power.  Yellow Rose was one of his victims. Yet he asked for prayers when he needed surgery?

I don't read any other GSD breed forum, so I don't know what is going on in the GSD world other than what I read here and what happens at training class and our local club events. I don't want to know LOL.

Thumbs up Joan, stir the pot.. Get ready to respond!

I'm not bringing up other forums here and it has nothing to do with religion, smh..what? I mean what?

 It has been my nature since... I don't know, possibly elementary school, to call out bullies/trouble makers/mockers.  I can post and ask questions or make statements, yes? Doesn't matter the username.  I'll skim through a thread and may comment here and there but for the most part there is A LOT OF SORTING through foolishness.  How many can agree to that? Does it not get old?

  not sure of the pedigree of his dog but he has said XYZ about it being a mutt by his own admission.  So when I read his post about how great his dog was in comparison I was a bit confused. As far as mentioning your location compared to his, I was wondering how you actually know how great his dog is and what they are used for. 

You can view how active im on this forum.  

 

I said 'speaks to the Quality of his 'registered' gsd. Same goes for your dog.' Show where I said his dog is "Great".
You must have missed, when vk talks about his hound pup, he often calls him a 'mut'.
Doesn't matter where anyone is on this forum, believe what you choose to believe. Duke, for example is in Czech rep, yet I believe what he relates of his experiences concerning dogs, and that he knows what he is doing regards breeding, training, evaluating working dogs...of any breed. Susie is in Germany, never met her either, yet I have tremendous respect for her and I've only seen one still picture she ever posted. But her posts ring true, same as vk's posts about his dogs and what he does with them.

one thing about vk he will post a video of his dog on many occasion no mater what people have to say .that the confidence he has in his dog is good to see  .allot of people don't and wont post any video they will bicker about how good their dog is no mater what line  if your that confidence about your dogs post your video and stop all the shit talk it the same people all the time on the defensive no mater what the thread .

 

 

how does one get facts about 20 years into the future, what a stupid comment.

Don't sign your posts.

 

How does one (try to) predict the future, as you have, without having facts that exist today? 

ok  guys, you win, i'm beat, drago is a super slueth, i have been exposed

 

i have no proof that my dog is pure-bred.

 

i have proof my mutt is a mutt is a mutt tho, drago, i have 4 dogs, 3 mutts and a gsd.

 

i refer to my mutts as the mutts and my other dog a gsd.

 

in fact i can not only NOT prove my dog is purebred i have actually stated several threads on 3 forums asking about rumours  that a well used international stud dog in my dog's ped on both sides is a result of a cross with a knpv mal.

 

strange drago would think this is a problem for me?

 

i have had responses from old school guys that this is more than just rumour but nobody will say it publicly due to the dog being in so many peds around the world.

 

i assume it is most likely true given the varierty of sources that do not strongly disagree with the rumour.

 

the concept of purity is always good for a breed?

 

drago you should read the thread re martin brothers i think, there is aa huge excahnge if i remember correctly about some very widely used dogs that had false pedigrees.

 

given the exponential rate popular dogs make make puppies and the corruption, lack of dna etc, i don't think anyone can be too confident in their peds as they are written, interesting question tho, hope it gets discussed.

 

 

much of the line vs. line is carried on by people who have no real world success in either line. The people who have been there and done that know what it takes to produce/find dogs with what they want in a GSD.

Lines are created from the top down, the majority of VA dogs come from VA dogs, point dogs from point dogs, AKC/CKC champions from same. It is very diffulcult to a produce dog that does well in head to head competition with hundreds/thousands of other dogs.  Doesn't matter the country or the game. Few people would argue this, but will argue endlessly that "character" can be placed at the middle/end of the list of priorities and still be produced at the top of the list.

A dog that does well in show must first and foremost meet a very long and well defined list of physical attributes. To meet these requirements (and get to the front of the line), the dogs are bred generation after generation not only to have them but from dogs that have them. It does not matter a dogs "character" if it does not have the correct anatomy it will not be VA or AKC Champion and that is where the big money is at.

A line will reflect most consistently the traits it has been bred for.