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by joanro on 02 April 2015 - 13:04

'The kennels are warm in the winter and cool in the summer, with wooden floor and fresh saw dust every day  cleaned up 2x per day   and dogs are there only there  for few hours a day during feeding and training time where they get cooked meat from wild game, never mind that the dogs are in prime shape, trained or walked everyday 2 x by 8 employees.'

Where are the dogs the rest of the time, if they must be brought into these cells for feeding...and where do they harvest the 'wild game' to feed , according to your claims, Tens of Thousands of dogs over a 40 yr span? If the dogs don't live full time in those cells, why are 8 employees needed to 'walked 2 x' a day? And why, if the cells are only for training and feeding for a few hrs do the cells need 'fresh saw dust every day' and 'cleaned up 2 x per day' ?
Has anyone else noticed the inconsistencies here?

Koots

by Koots on 02 April 2015 - 16:04

Has anyone else noticed the inconsistencies here?

I know one other person has.  Wink Smile   Teeth Smile

Back to topic -   I consider that in the interpretation of the term "Czech pedigree", it means that the pedigree is issued by the Czech Republic's official registry.    

But, I consider that there are certain "lines" of dogs, one of which is the Cz-type lines,typified by certain characteristics.    Others that are commonly mentioned are WGWL, ASL, GSL, etc., each of which conjures up certain characteristics or traits.


by joanro on 02 April 2015 - 16:04

Agreed about 'type' and different 'lines'. But in the context of the original question, more often than not, the description in ads of all Czech or pure Czech is sale's hyp. Jmo.

Koots

by Koots on 02 April 2015 - 16:04

Much the same as the "pure DDR" sales pitch?     


by duke1965 on 03 April 2015 - 13:04

same as KNPV lines, BSP participants, WUSV participants, policedogs, belgium ring lines, french ring  lines and so on, great grandson of so and so, doesnot everybody use something to adress their dogs by and make them interesting for buyers


by duke1965 on 03 April 2015 - 13:04

oh and if I buy a mercedes in czech and get czech registrations on it, it is still a german car Wink Smile


by joanro on 03 April 2015 - 13:04

'Others that are commonly mentioned are WGWL, ASL, GSL, etc., each of which conjures up certain characteristics or traits.'

These "lines' are not touted in ads proclaiming, All, or Straight, or pure. Very seldom does one see a pedigree for the wgsl with DDR, Wgwl, or zps dogs in the ped within seven gen. Same goes for ASL ped, and the wgwl don't 'brag' using catch words like All, straight, etc when promoting them. Its the DDR and so called straight Czech that use those pitch words, and most of the time, wgsl are close up in their ped, even behind dogs with the zps kennel...even those dogs are not Pure, for seven gen and usually they are 1/4 to 1/2 wgsl. Even then ones that are 'famous'.

by joanro on 03 April 2015 - 14:04

'same as KNPV lines, BSP participants, WUSV participants, policedogs, belgium ring lines, french ring  lines and so on, great grandson of so and so, doesnot everybody use something to adress their dogs by and make them interesting for buyers'

Something to address their dogs by is one thing. But when its to 'make them interesting for buyers' is when they use sales pitch like the list above, unless the dog itself has any of those titles. Most people resorting to such descriptions dont know enough about the pups or dog they are promoting to say anything descriptive about them, so must rely on others' work and accomplisments to 'make them interesting for buyers'. But once again, using sport titles or cirtifications to designate as a 'line' , compared to a country that is isolated by natural or man made barriers ( including breeding choices for traits, such as color or temperament) which restricts the gene pool is apples/oranges. If you want to use sport titles, then ALL gsd could be called 'schH lines'.

by duke1965 on 03 April 2015 - 14:04

whatever makes you happy Joan, why did you previously buy dogs with czech pedigrees may I ask, what was your motivation than


by joanro on 03 April 2015 - 14:04

Duke, I think you are missing the point of any of this discussion. I never said there's no such thing as zps dogs or cz police, dogs that were selectively bred for certain character and temperament, bred for a specific job. Concurrently, civilians in Czechoslovakia had gsd they were breeding, which were not to the stringent specifics for selection as the gov programs...BUT, those civilians dogs are also Czech dogs, even the b/r dogs from the Arminius, Weinerau, etc kennels.. Which were incorporated into the zps 'lines', so much so, that it is not so easy to find a ped from cz without those dogs close up as well as all the way down from seven gen to recent.. That's when I see it as a sales pitch to claim All or Straight or Pure cz, implying zps working lines. In reality, the wgsl are what makes up a significant portion of the cz ped from seven or more gen all the way up to current dogs. So the pitch of 'all' , 'straight', and 'pure' are superfluous. I have three 'cz' dogs that are devoid of wgsl in their ped, so I'm not saying such ped don't exist, just that it is not as common. Also, I'm certainly not saying the dogs with the German kennel names are in any way inferior, just that they are present, and therefore negate the term 'pure'.





 


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