For Those Who Test For DM, What Age? - Page 20

So Jenni with 188 comments and so many things being said over and over by different people, What makes you think I was ASKING you? Did I mention your name when I asked that question?  Yes you said it, but dont forget there are others commenting on the same thing also.  Did I tell you that you were wrong for thinking what you do? 

Maybe you are taking things a little too personal by thinking I was talking to only you.  Which "you" can be also in the plural form meaning more than one, which in these case speaking to a group of people in a fourm is obvious it is not intended for ONLY ONE person. Had I meant it for only YOU, I would have mentioned your name jsut as I did in this comment. 

Now enjoy the debate about DM. Time people realize it's ok to disagee and not one is right or wrong, ESPECIALLY on test results that are not worth the paper they are written on.  JMO. Have a nice day. 

Hutchins, you're a card short. 

Thats your insulting opinion Jenni and personally I dont care what you think.  I never said I was perfect and having all the cards would mean I am perfect.    However,  a card short is not bad when compared to what others are missing. How many cards do you have? Do you have them all and think you are one of the perfect ones?   

Enjoy this thread now as I have much better things to do than to carry on with argumentative people that thrive on drama. 

@ Joanro

article in dutch

 

Degeneratieve Myelopathy

 

Degeneratieve Myelopathie - De Schotseherderhond

 

They know already DM exist in 1973 same as the hips problems, they thought the hips/ellbows issues  was more risk than the

DM . now they are know they were stupid  not take this  more serious.that time.( and some  people even today !!)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, OK. You were saying DM in the YEAR 1973. Right. But DMUs much more complex to diagnose than h/e dysp. Not as prevalent as h/e problems that I can see.

Interesting statistics, Susie. The OFFA stats don't reflect all dogs that tested carriers or at risk, only those listed in their database and not all owners have allowed that to happen. Do the German stats reflect all tested? If so, the stats might be very similar. Same test? Different test?

Think what is most interesting about BlackMalinois 's linked

articles is that the first one is relying on OFAs research programme

at MU;  the second features  what appears to be independent Dutch

research but where the ALS thing has been swallowed.  Both lump

GSD into the "there are a range of other breeds which suffer from

DM" camp.

NB:   we MIGHT be looking at one set of genes for all canines -

or we still might NOT.

 

Anyone unfamiliar with what DM looks like, there are good videos

within the second link.

It´s the same SOD1 test, the international rights are at the University of Missouri
The Laboklin results are anonym, so I guess all tested dogs are mentioned in their statistic.

I've been thinking about this a lot lately. I think testing can't hurt, but is useless unless every dog suspected is necropsied. My big issue is with the faulty conclusions and as a consequence, the marketing aimed at creating false security. This is why I have never advertised DM status on my website; I want to discuss what the test does and does not mean with everyone. I think I'm going to start putting "SOD1 N/N" on my dogs' peds as opposed to "DM clear" because we may know they don't carry a mutated SOD1, but we do NOT know beyond a doubt that they will not develp DM. Same with carriers or affecteds- we don't know that they will or won't, so "SOD1" would show those who are educated on the topic what the status is, and maybe lead those who don't know to ask, which opens the opportunity for discussion about what the test can and cannot assure. 

 

-Way to go Jenni;  a great idea.  Unless all are tested and such, the results of any and all won't be accurate;  I say test as many as you can, that way they are in the results category and you can follow through their lives to see the true results.  Genius.   It is the only way we are going to get anywhere with this disease and possibly by everyone testing and having results available to them researchers will have a more clear picture.  I can't see it suceed any other way.  Nan  Thx for sharing your thoughts.