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by Blitzen on 10 July 2015 - 12:07

Lucky has no tolerance for anyone who doesn't share his/her opinions? Really?


by joanro on 10 July 2015 - 12:07

Blitzen, don't bother trying to nail me to the wall. Offa = ORTHOPAEDIC Foundation for Animals. Find some one else to hassle, we've already done this years ago. I'm not up for seconds.

by Blitzen on 10 July 2015 - 12:07

I was asking because it's probably  a good idea for all the test results to go into the OFA database. I don't give a damn if your dogs are tested or not, or the results, but the researchers may be able to use that information sometime in the future. Many dogs are listed by call names so kennel names are often not available. If I need to know about a dog i am interested in, I'll search the OFA database or ask to see a copy of the certificate.

I was perfectly willing to try to get along with  you, Joan. There are many great things about you and your dogs that I admire.


by joanro on 10 July 2015 - 12:07

Blitzen, the 'researchers' have the results.

by joanro on 10 July 2015 - 12:07

Getting along is good.

by Blitzen on 10 July 2015 - 12:07

That's great! The more information they have, the better the chance of defeating DM. Now don't get mad, but would you consider submitting DNA samples to the CHIC database too? It is so important for the future of the breed. Thanks.


by Blitzen on 10 July 2015 - 12:07

Getting along is good.

It sure is.


by joanro on 10 July 2015 - 13:07

The same lab offa uses have the results, u o m . pretty sure the lab keeps tabs of what's what.
Through all this back and forth no one has commented on the fact that DM cannot be eliminated by DNA testing. That was the reason I posted to begin with. Instead, what forever lucky did was post the usual over reactive rhetoric that always shows up on these tired threds, throwing in the obligatory catch phrases, 'byb' 'spayed' , then the 'stud dog that comes from clear parentage and was the unlucky lightening stuck mutated at risk flinging his genes far and wide', that was one that made me lol. Anyway, this has turned out the same way all these DM threds end up.
Have good day, blitzen. Hope you're staying cool down there in fl. :-)

by Blitzen on 10 July 2015 - 14:07

Joan, as you may remember, my current GSD tested as a DM carrier. Her sire tested as a carrier. Her grandsire tested at risk, developed DM diagnosed at autopsy. That said to me that DM is in these lines and it was necessary to breed her to a clear. Maybe it wouldn't have mattered since the odds of an at risk actually developing DM seems low. Still, I couldn't take a chance. There were plenty of normals available that complimented her, so we chose one of them rather than an untested dog.  In this case, testing and using those results in a way that would not produce more at risks could have prevented the disease in a few more dogs. I will never know for sure one way or the other, but erring on the side of caution seemed prudent to me and the right thing to do. If she lives long enough I will know if this particular carrier does or does not develop DM. Personally I think that the average shorter lifespan of GSD's may be a reason why some at risks never show signs of DM. I dunno, just my own opinion. All any of us can do is what we think is the right thing. 

I hope that the results of the tests are shared.

The heat and humidity here is oppressive. Ugh.....

 

 

 


by joanro on 10 July 2015 - 14:07

The test results are only worth anything if the dog is necropsied when they die. ALL dogs tested would also need to be necropsied, clinical expression of DM or not in order to correlate DNA test to those findings.
Its oppressively hot here, too.





 


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