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by susie on 23 July 2015 - 20:07
Dog1: "In a regular class there would hopefully be more dogs."
You are right, there ARE more dogs, and looking at the total amount of German Shepherd dogs there is no real reason to make an oversized dog "winner of the day".
It is what it is.
by Schaeferhund1 on 24 July 2015 - 02:07
The article was originally published in 2005 in the SV magazine. What has happened in the ten years since?
The SV suspended the size requirement in the 2014 Körordnung. The regulation that over- and undersize of more than 1 cm precludes Körung has been "suspended until Dec. 31, 2020". The argument has been that without opening up size and without penalizing for oversize it wouldn't be possible to get 'real' measures of the dogs. We may conclude that the use of the measurement stick varies with the SV's regulation on size ;)
Size measurements are still not included in the judges' reports. They never have been. But that could be changed. They still write 'medium sized, above medium sized, large, very large, over large'. Bernhard Eichler of the Initiativgruppe queried Lothar Quoll about it but didn't get an answer to the question what measurements corresponds to these relative categories. http://www.initiativgruppe-sv.de/aktuelles/101-bericht-ueber-den-vortrag-von-bzw-lothar-quoll-am-24115-in-wertherherr-quoll-hielt-seinen-vortrag-ue
But does size matter? And what kind of size? Height at the withers? Build as expressed in weight/height ratio? Chest depth/waist size?
Nores Kriminalpolizei measured 70 cm at the withers, and acc. to all records, was a fit working dog. So was Vello zu den sieben Faulen, 67 cm at the withers. In terms of 'size' the biggest change isn't height at the withers but it is the heavy build of the current BSZS dogs, the change in weight/height ratio, a development way underway in 2005 when the article was written. And that seems more controversial than height at the withers. We shall see how the SV continues to evolve...
The SV suspended the size requirement in the 2014 Körordnung. The regulation that over- and undersize of more than 1 cm precludes Körung has been "suspended until Dec. 31, 2020". The argument has been that without opening up size and without penalizing for oversize it wouldn't be possible to get 'real' measures of the dogs. We may conclude that the use of the measurement stick varies with the SV's regulation on size ;)
Size measurements are still not included in the judges' reports. They never have been. But that could be changed. They still write 'medium sized, above medium sized, large, very large, over large'. Bernhard Eichler of the Initiativgruppe queried Lothar Quoll about it but didn't get an answer to the question what measurements corresponds to these relative categories. http://www.initiativgruppe-sv.de/aktuelles/101-bericht-ueber-den-vortrag-von-bzw-lothar-quoll-am-24115-in-wertherherr-quoll-hielt-seinen-vortrag-ue
But does size matter? And what kind of size? Height at the withers? Build as expressed in weight/height ratio? Chest depth/waist size?
Nores Kriminalpolizei measured 70 cm at the withers, and acc. to all records, was a fit working dog. So was Vello zu den sieben Faulen, 67 cm at the withers. In terms of 'size' the biggest change isn't height at the withers but it is the heavy build of the current BSZS dogs, the change in weight/height ratio, a development way underway in 2005 when the article was written. And that seems more controversial than height at the withers. We shall see how the SV continues to evolve...
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