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by Blitzen on 14 August 2015 - 14:08
Funny lost some points on that exercise too, can't remember how many. I may still have the sheet, I'll have to look. Overall she was pretty uninterested in most of the exercises and managed to look unconcerned about it all. My first GSD from Smith was the same as Missie T. He never met a stranger and didn't have an aggressive bone in his body, but he did protect me one time very much to my surprise. So Missie may have too, you never know unless these dogs are challenged which most never are.
by Sunsilver on 14 August 2015 - 18:08
When I didn't react, she just watched him very closely until he went away.
The tester, who is also president of one of the local schutzhund clubs said her reaction was perfect for the job she does for me (hearing ear dog). She obviously knew the difference between this fake guy and the decoy!
by Blitzen on 14 August 2015 - 19:08
Good for Star!!
Some of the GSD's I watched were very defensive about everything. Maybe defensive isn't the correct term; they seem ready to pounce on everyone who came near them. It was done at a GSDCA specialty show and there were no other breeds there. I think it would have been interesting to see how different breeds reacted too. You were lucky that your tester understood Sch dogs. As I already said, Funny's warned me about not talking to her at all as in giving commands and if she heard German she would not be a happy camper. As it turned out her scores were relatively low, but passing and if I remember right, she gave her a substantial deduction for her uninterested response to the stranger. She was a good Sch and a UDT dog, but she just wasn't interested in role playing I guess 
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by marjorie on 14 August 2015 - 19:08
by Blitzen on 14 August 2015 - 19:08
It's like most everything else, Marj, a matter of personal interpretation.
GSDCA TEMPERAMENT TEST
| PASS | TEST | FAIL |
| 0 Does not alert to the stranger, dog's attention is elsewhere.
+1 Mildly alert and is friendly toward the stranger +2 Mildly alert, is mildly friendly toward the stranger +3 Alerts to stranger and confidently holds his ground, is poised, with neither aggressive nor friendly reaction |
NEUTRAL STRANGER | Exhibits any signs of aggression or shyness
-1 Alerts but is uneasy at the approach and exhibits mild avoidance behavior. -2 Gives ground, escape reaction. -3 Panics, escape reaction, or shows aggressive behavior. |
| 0 Ignores approach and his attention is elsewhere.
+1 Alert and responds in a friendly manner to the stranger +2 Alert and mildly receptive to the stranger's advances +3 Alert, self confident, holds his ground but is aloof toward the stranger's advances. |
FRIENDLY STRANGER | -1 Shows mild avoidance
-2 Nervous, looking about or upward with anxious expression -3 Shrinks behind handler, escape reaction, or shows aggressive reaction |
| 0 No reaction
+1 Alerts, startles, and will investigate only with strong encouragement. +2 Alerts, startles momentarily, but quickly recovers and moves forward to investigate within 20 seconds. +3 Alerts, and eagerly moves forward to investigate |
HIDDEN CLATTERING
- APPROACH |
-1 Alerts but will not investigate in spite of encouragement, within 20 seconds. Mild avoidance
-2 Alerts, backs away, medium avoidance. -3 Panic, escape reaction, strong avoidance. |
| 0 No reaction (unlikely)
+1 Shows startle and/or avoidance, but with strong encouragement makes close investigation in 20 seconds. +2 Hesitates, but recovers quickly and makes a close investigation with or without mild encouragement. +3 Confidently and without hesitation proceeds to a close investigation of the can. |
INVESTIGATION,
VISUAL INSPECTION OF CLATTERING |
-1 Strong startle and/or avoidance - with encouragement fails to recover sufficiently to make close investigation within 20 seconds.
-2 Strong startle and/or avoidance. Encouragement results in little or no recovery. -3 Panic, escape reaction |
| 0 No reaction
+1 Startles, with or without encouragement recovers in 20 seconds, but does not show investigative behavior. +2 Startles, but with or without encouragement quickly recovers and investigates. +3 Alerts and confidently turns toward the sound to investigate. |
GUN TEST | -1 Startles and does not recover in 20 seconds with encouragement. Nervous, looking about, anxious.
-2 Startles and doesn't recover with encouragement, shrinking behind handler. -3 Panic, escape reaction. No response to encouragement, out of control. |
| 0 No reaction -(unlikely)
+1 Startles, but with strong encouragement will investigate within 20 seconds. +2 Startles, but with or without encouragement quickly recovers and investigates within 20 seconds. +3 Startles, but recovers almost instantly and shows confident, investigative or aggressive behavior. |
UMBRELLA | -1 Startles and does not recover with encouragement within 20 seconds. Nervous, looking about, anxious.
-2 Startles and doesn't recover with encouragement within 20 seconds. Shrinking behind handler. -3 Panic, escape reaction. No response to encouragement within 20 seconds; out of control. |
| 0 Not applicable
+1 Shows mild avoidance but walks across with some encouragement. +2 Hesitates but quickly recovers and walks across confidently and without encouragement. +3 Walks confidently across the change of footing without hesitation. |
FOOTING
- PLASTIC |
-1 Mild avoidance and requires considerable encouragement before making any attempt to walk or jump across. Refuses to walk complete length.
-2 Strong avoidance, will not cross with encouragement. -3 Panic, escape reaction, out of control |
| SAME AS ABOVE | FOOTING
- WIRE MESH |
SAME AS ABOVE |
| 0 No reaction
+1 Alert with no investigative and/or aggressive reaction. +2 Alert with moderate investigative and/or aggressive reaction. +3 Immediate, strong alert with fearless and eager investigative reaction. |
PROTECTIVE RESPONSE
- APPEARANCE |
-1 Alert with mild avoidance. Nervous, looking about, anxious.
-2 Alert and strong avoidance, shrinking behind handler. -3 Panic, escape reaction, uncontrolled. |
| 0 No reaction
+1 Stands ground but shows only mild investigative and/or aggressive reaction. +2 Stands ground and becomes investigative and/or aggressive. +3 Begins or continues strong investigative reaction. Moving forward, very eager and alert. |
- APPROACH | -1 Retreats, displays some curiosity but no aggressive reaction.
-2 Displays strong avoidance reaction retreating behind the handler with no investigative and/or aggressive reaction. -3 Panic, escape reaction, uncontrolled. |
| 0 No reaction, or only shows curiosity.
+1 Stands ground or may retreat slightly but with or without encouragement recovers in 20 seconds, and holds his ground with mild investigative and/or aggressive reaction. +2 Stands ground, is alert, investigative and/or aggressive. +3 Begins or continues strong investigative and/or aggressive reaction, moving forward toward the aggressive stranger. |
- THREAT | -1 Retreats slightly and with encouragement does not recover and/or hold ground in 20 seconds. May display some aggressive behavior in retreat.
-2 Shows strong avoidance. Retreating behind handler. -3 Panic, escape reaction, uncontrolled. |
by marjorie on 15 August 2015 - 20:08
by susie on 15 August 2015 - 21:08
by Dawulf on 15 August 2015 - 23:08
She comes with me every night when I work though. I lovelovelove her discernment. Some of the clerks I have will come out and say hi to her, and she eats-up the attention (and occasional cookie), but she definitely makes it known when someone needs to go away. Just the other day, I had some dude come up to the car and start hitting on me, and she went from snoozing in the back on her mat to a roaring, snarling beast with her head and chest jammed in between my seat and door, balanced on top of 6 bundles of papers in a split second. After the initial shock the guy says "Woah! Your dog isn't going to like,,, kill me is it?" I said "She might." and drove off. I have no doubt she'd protect me for real, if needed. She might not be an IPO super dog, but she has it where it counts, for sure!
by marjorie on 16 August 2015 - 01:08
by Blitzen on 16 August 2015 - 12:08
I guess they want the dog to bite the umbrella in order to get the full 3 points .
I did it with my dogs to see how they would react in various situations. I felt some of the tests were more valuable for me than others. My dogs are raised at a trap field, so a gun shot is an every day thing for them and there was little reaction from any of them. Just another fun thing to do with a dog that might help the owner understand them a little better. I think requiring the TCI, an AKC CH, and normal hips and elbows in order for a GSDCA member's dog to receive certain club awards is a small step in the right direction.
She's a good dog, Dawulf. Those are the reactions I would want to see too. I want my dogs to drop it/leave it when I say so without my having to physically intervene and to know a real threat when they see one. Whenever I'm asked by a stranger- will she bite me?- I always say only if I tell her to so don't give me a reason to do that 
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