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by dndjas on 24 August 2015 - 13:08

i have stopped it the 2nd of her problem. but her problem continued and today is 8th day. what treatment should i give now if its myasthenia gravis, as i have no clue about animals and i doctor of human being.

by Blitzen on 24 August 2015 - 14:08

Where do you live, dndjas? You need a better vet. Maybe someone here lives where you are and can give  you a suggestion. Are there any vet schools in your country?  if so, you might want to try there. I fear this dog isn't going to last too much longer unless you receive the right diagnosis and treatment. People here will try their best to be helpful, but an internet diagnosis may not be enough. This sounds like a life threatening condition to me.  You need a vet who is a great diagnostician, as you know dogs can't tell us what hurts as can humans.

Good luck....I am sorry for your dog and for you.


Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 24 August 2015 - 15:08

You stopped the Oflox, not the other meds, correct? I'm not sure how much damage it can do quickly, but if it's related to tendons, that certainly falls under the side effects listed. I totally agree with Blitzen. Post a new thread asking for vet suggestions where you live. This is serious and needs to be dealt with now. As far as the other drugs, and I'm saying this respectfully, if you have no clue about animals, I would stop giving them as they are clearly not helping. Perhaps as I said, you will get a clue if she improves or even if she gets worse. Vet school would be a great place to try next. Best of luck.

bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 24 August 2015 - 16:08

dndjas .. feed your dog a nice steak and worm her with fenbendazole for 7 days .. it can't hurt her and good food always helps your dog when sick or under stress. Your dog could be getting better while the veterinarian spends money on a diagnosis that might be right ( 50/50 chance ) and if it is skeletal or endocrine/immune related cant' really be treated effectively. A diagnosis is not a cure and most industrial medicine focuses on a diagnosis and remedial treatment. My dogs seldom get sick and I never take them to the veterinarian because I feed an excellent low carbohydrate high animal protein and animal fat diet. If you want your dog to be happy and healthy feed a diet appropriate for dogs and that is a high animal fat and protein diet. Fenbendazole is a very safe wormer and I have taken the same product as my dogs take with no GI disturbance or ill effects .. both Giardia and whip worms are not easily or accurately diagnosed thus treatment is more economical than a useless diagnosis with a high rate of failure.

bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 24 August 2015 - 16:08

dndjas .. has your puppy recently had a wound or bite somewhere on her body?? Likewise has your puppy recently had a vaccination ( past 30 days )?? During your trip did you visit any areas with ticks or other biting insects which through contact could have infected your puppy with a disease?? You said your puppy had no ticks but some of the tick borne diseases can be vectored by other hosts to our dogs. Veterinarians and doctors do not like to talk about less well recognized host/vectors for the so-called tick borne diseases but they most certainly exist. Please do not lose sight of your puppy's previous GI tract problem before your trip and the link between your trip and the symptoms appearing. It is highly unlikely that her present problems and the trip and the previous GI problem are unrelated.  Has your puppy been exposed to, played or stayed in a kennel or a house recently treated with insecticides??  In particular has her kennel or your home been treated with an insecticide perhaps while you were on your trip??  Upon entry to an insecticide treated area her symptoms would develop as a result of exposure to the insecticide.  Many home insecticides are applied as "baseboard" treatments which limits human exposure but makes dog and cat exposure much higher.  Also some products applied to control rodents or mice are toxic to dogs which either eat the products directly or consume the dead or dying mice.  Any pest control done by yourself or others should be brought into question as a possible cause of your puppy's illness.  Of course anti-freeze from autos or other sources are highly toxic to dogs as are some house plants. 


by dndjas on 24 August 2015 - 17:08

I live in INDIA. and before going to trip ,10day before i have insecticide sprayed at home and avoided her contact to the contaminated areas. and when back from the trip, i was tired to clean up the mess. also i have to join the hospital for work. and may be in hurry i have not noticed the dead insects or deadly insect near my dog,prabably she has ingested.
The good part about her is she eating good ,passing stool and urinating.
I went to my parents home,where we have pomerian dog. and one day we made fishes for guests and left the dustbin open. later we found the dustbin open and i suppose she might have eaten raw left over in night. the next day night me and my dog started our trip to come back and it took 24hrs. she was breathing through her open mouth even in AC,with low temperature where i was feeling cold. she than had one episode of vomiting and once loose stool. when we came back to home she had few time loose stool. i asked for vet and he adviced for tab.oflox+ornidazole bid for two day. she was doing great but the next day she developed the restricted activity and even now she unable to sit by herself if she want to after she lying on floor.

by jabanega on 24 August 2015 - 18:08

I hope your dog gets better soon. I know it sounds basic but are there calluses developing on the elbows? Sometimes dogs can get them from laying on hard surfaces for too long. It grows gradually unnoticed but when it effects the dog it is quick to notice. You will notice it start limping one day and then be really immobile the next. If this is the cause then the digestive problems might be from the different medications it has taken.

by Blitzen on 24 August 2015 - 18:08

You still need a good vet to see her.


bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 24 August 2015 - 18:08

Raw fish ( intestines and organs especially ) is perhaps the best possible source of giardia .. cooking kills giardia in cooked fish but the raw fish and offal is most likely contaminated. Also cooked fish bones could cause stomach bloating or discomfort if present in the food she may have eaten from the dust bin.  Areas treated with insecticides should be cleaned of residual insecticide as much as possible.  Pesticides for mouse and rat control should not be eaten by dogs nor should the dead or dying mice be consumed and yes a GSD will catch and eat a mouse.

The symptoms of Giardia, which may begin to appear 2 days after infection, include violent diarrhea, excess gas, stomach or abdominal cramps, upset stomach, and nausea. Resulting dehydration and nutritional loss may need immediate treatment. The typical infection within an individual can be slight, resolve without treatment, and last between 2–6 weeks, although it can sometimes last longer and/or be more severe.

There are other parasites which dogs can ingest by eating raw fish and there is a bacterial infection which come from eating Salmon and other ocean going fish that return to fresh water to spawn which is very closely related to the tick borne diseases in symptoms and treatment.

http://myedmondsnews.com/2011/07/ask-the-edmonds-vet-about-dogs-and-raw-fish/

Dogs and other canids — such as wolves, fox and coyotes — that eat RAW anadromous fish (fish that are born in fresh water and spend most of their life in the ocean, then return to fresh water swimming upstream to breed) are susceptible. Examples of anadromous fish are salmon, some species of trout, smelt, shad, striped bass and sturgeon. The Pacific giant salamander has also been incriminated, but your dog must be very special to catch and eat one of these.

This is another disease, like Lyme disease, caused by a parasite vector — in this case a fluke named Nanophyetus salminicola. These flukes can be infected with a nasty bacteria known as Neorickettsia helminthoeca. If your dog eats raw fish infested with these flukes, they attach to the dog’s intestine and release the bacteria. If the flukes do not harbor the bacteria, the dog usually shows no sign of a problem.


by xbitetab on 24 August 2015 - 18:08

Ahah Now we get the whole story about fish bones, garbage bins, and the vet needs his head pinned.

YOU do not give a 7 month old pup all those drugs he said to give....Flagyll which is MEtrodiazole, 250 at most twice a day first day and then every 12 hours give one with a dose of 5mg of panacur which is Fenz what BUBBA posted, and then do this for at least 8 days.

QUIT all the drugs...your dog is in abdominal distress from all the crap she ate...abroad and home...you never let a pup just loose in yard , house to eat what she wants to or get into ...CRATE your pup till she is 2 yrs old and taught obedient and not curious...PUPS are famous for eating everything they smell or find.

YOU need to get some GERMAN SHEPHERD articles , actually right here from this base, and I am sure someone here can guide you to them..I never posted here till about 5 months ago so I am not familiar..MY family did but not me..
' I learned from them and it is very important a gsd is fed right and kept in a safe environment.

DO not be bashful about asking here and people like Jen and BUBBA and Blitzen and Hexe can fill you in..THERE are others that breed that I do not know their names...SUSIE and Joanro I believe ...

SORRY but I am not happy when I see this kind of problem and a VET cannot use his commen sense and /or consult a fellow vet..I guess in India it is all about MEDS>

I am sorry you have to hear us be sharp but we are mostly concerned for the poor puppy who is at your keep...Actually human bodies react much like dogs..WE use same rules... no wheat, no corn , no soy,  dog food, with balanced whole grains,  and proper balance of vitamins necessary ....raw meat that has human ratings and is frozen first...no milk products except yogurt and other cottage cheeses small curd with no junk in it like aspertame which is in most name brand yogurts...Check out 
www.mountainhigh.com     .free preservative  yogurt for humans that dogs need...no junk no foolish ness and free of sugars etc.
\small curd cottage cheese as large curd cottage has chemical reaction to become large....also no fat free anything....only reg 4% fat reg cottage cheese small curd...or plain MH yogurt...or a probiotic that humans take..and or a prebiotic too...since we do not feed fruit a prebiotic pill for humans given once or twice a week is great...

Sorry for the rant but what you feed your pup is what you get back either good or bad...
 






 


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