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bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 24 August 2015 - 19:08

Fish poisoning can kill rather quickly if not properly treated.  If your puppy was mine I would be giving fenbendazole at maximum recommended dosage for dogs (non toxic wormer ) for 7 days minimum and I would also stop all other antibiotics .. wait 2 days and then start doxycycline for 14 days or until her condition resolved.  If her condition is autoimmune or skeletal then antibiotics nor fenbendazole will help her but the fenbendazole should show results in 5 days or less but do not stop until 7 days and then fenbendazole again at 30 days to 60 days and again at 90 days.  If she has diarrhea or vomiting or both then worming becomes a problem as the wormer may not be effective.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salmon_poisoning_disease

Nanophysiasis in dogs is much more serious than in humans. Scientists noticed almost 200 years ago that dogs that consumed raw fish sometimes died rather quickly. This “salmon poisoning”, while associated with the trematode Nanophyetus salmincola is not caused by the worm. The sickness is caused by Neorickettsia helminthoeca, a rickettsial bacteria that uses the N. salmincola as a host. Diagnosis is through finding the fluke eggs microscopically in a stool sample. A needle aspiration biopsy of an enlarged lymph node will reveal rickettsial organisms within macrophages in many cases.[5] The rickettsial infection can be successfully treated with antibiotics such as tetracycline (doxycycline), and the fluke infection can be treated with fenbendazole.


by xbitetab on 25 August 2015 - 02:08

Has the Poster vet done any kind of fecal tests...if one test doesnt show there are many more....

FYI: Puppy should not be on the diet I suggested for over a month when his system is back to normal..I would keep him on BLAND diet what ever that is in India....no fatty , no salt and no high protein for about 30 days..then ease her back to a diet for a healthy gsd..

Adding what or some of what I suggested with raw meats that have human quality and frozen first..
Bones that are round not sharp..

GOOD LUCK

Hope we get some answers soon.

THE worming process should be successful in about 10 days...watch her carefully..also do not give her CHLORINE water.....do not know what Indias polution levels or how you have your water but Bottled water is best till you can put a Filter on your source of water supply.



by dndjas on 25 August 2015 - 04:08

she is thin. not gaining weight. her weight will be approx 13-15kg and at 7month old, still she is thin look.
now i also think about deworming her. i got an asnwer from a friend whos guess was "neosporosis"i have no idea about this disease. But can it be the casue of such sudden problem to my german shepherd? what should i do in that case?

by xbitetab on 25 August 2015 - 04:08

Yes, It certainly can..BUBBA explained about the raw fish or raw meats and even dogs that eat raw fruit under trees in the pasture, or eat bark in flower beds that have infectious spores that effect the dog..but the vet can do a blood test for levels of this if he gets right on it.

THE treatment is given by vets that know the disease  MERCK has an article so the doctors or vets can find the answer for the proper treatment but this is a 7 month old pup, so they must be careful of dosage.

Monitoring the pup is important and when treatment is this vastly done, you must give probiotics to keep the immune system of good bacteria in tact.

This article I found among many on this disease

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1852590/

GOOD LUCK
MY guess this is the one spore as it attacks the MUSCLE, which is the hind quarters muscles and leg muscles  and can make the dog look ROACHED which you said she was standing like that..'
'HOPE the vet gets the tests needed to prove the level of this disease and if it is present in her.


by Blitzen on 25 August 2015 - 12:08

It may not be the best idea to deworm a sick dog. Not everything that goes wrong with a dog is the result of parasites.

To repeat.......this dog needs to be seen by a competent vet ASAP before it's too late. There are many things that could be wrong with her and some are life threatening.


bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 25 August 2015 - 14:08

dndjas ... stop diagnosing and act !!! Feed your dog good human grade cooked meat and rice to sooth her GI tract and give her good nutrition and worm her with fenbendazole. Fenbendazole is the safest wormer available for dogs and I have given it to sick dogs (because they had whip worms) which recovered rapidly. Dogs with a heavy parasite load may have problems as the parasites are shed for the larger worms including intestinal blockage but whip worms are small and exist in the upper colon and are less likely to cause blockage. You said the dog had a bloated stomach and was wormed earlier which improved her condition which sounded like she had worms or internal parasites. Most wormers do not control Giardia or whip worms but fenbendazole does at full dosage for 7 days. Fenbendazole is safe for pregnant females, nursing females and puppies of all ages so if your dog has worms time is of the essence. Waiting for a veterinarian to come to a correct conclusion about what is wrong with your dog is often a prescription for $1000 worth of tests and no real diagnosis other than a list of possibilities. I learned at my own expense that it is more effective to treat for the most common and likely maladies which require harmless and inexpensive treatment rather than waiting for a veterinarian to reach a diagnostic conclusion after your dog is dead. About 50% of the conclusions that veterinarians reach as to diagnosis are wrong anyway. If you are a physician or medical practitioner you know that the myth of proper diagnosis is over sold and most doctors end up treating the symptoms and seeing what works or gets a response.  Veterinarians are no different .. only worse.


by joanro on 25 August 2015 - 15:08

Excellent post, bubba.

bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 25 August 2015 - 18:08

YouTube on Giardia and fenbendazole ..

https://youtu.be/CyD-PsaPAJc


susie

by susie on 26 August 2015 - 16:08

Whatever the outcome will be, please keep us updated - might help another dog!
All the best,
Susie

by dndjas on 27 August 2015 - 08:08

hello susie,
i have shown her to vet and he said no need to deworm now. and she isnt case of myelopathy. x ray of spine has no dected abnormality. he asked me to continue the sasme treatment also to start steroid(prednisone 1mg/kg body weight)
i have found dat after two days of steroids, she can sit now.





 


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