any insight on this breeding pair? - Page 7

Susie, if you factor in all the time spent studying pedigrees, transporting bitches to and from Germany when necessary, vet bills (often times the breedings are frozen semen and that gets expensive in the US),  training the average litter of 5 or 6 until they are at least 4 months old,  titling (always HOT and BHOT) vacs, deworming, providing many of the buyers with food and housing for a few days, and so on, I'm not sure they actually do make a profit.  One has shown her first 2 German GSD's at the German and Austrian Sieger so she could see what that would be like.

I guess it's pretty much the same thing  you see going on in Germany. IMO a really big help for the US breeders would be if the SV approved the  use of frozen or fresh chilled semen. Do you think that will ever happen?

Actually, Joan,  I did tell you the details in pm's. Maybe you forgot. And I am not speaking of one single breeder, I know 3 who breed this way.

Let's just agree to disagree and move on. I have a class soon.

Susie, I'm not saying they dont post, im saying mentioning the name.

We talked about this before - I don´t know, but I hope they won´t.
We had to harden our rules year after year to be sure about titles/show results/matings within our own country. I don´t want to see all of this watered down.
You already own all of the important bloodlines, you don´t need semen out of "names" to improve the American breeding stock, you just need to use EDIT and develop the good dogs you already imported or bred.

So your concern is that the person who purchases the semen would not use it on titled bitches?

Blitzen, you live in fl, I'm in the Carolinas, yet we each have a gsd sl friend who are friends...its a small world:-)

Untitled bitches, not breed surveyed, not DNA´d, different sire, wrong pups, lacking proven health tests, and on and on and on -
On our side: too many litters out of one stud, lazy studs used for breeding...
Don´t forget: As soon as we start to allow the use of semen, this would be WORLWIDE - and there are countries that care less than the USA.
Not my decision though..

I agree, Susie, not a good idea at all.

Joan, since you know the identity of one of the breeders I am talking about, you should also know that she does not frequent breed boards, is training dogs 6 hours every day and would not approve of my mentioning her name here. In fact she'd smack me upside my head if I did that and I wouldn't blame her. 
As I've said, anyone who is interested in details can pm me here.  Yes, it is a small world.

Indeed, it is...

It doesn´t really speak against a breeder, that he/she is not involved ( or does not need to be involved ) in our "drama" world