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by joanro on 15 March 2016 - 18:03

Character is a major aspect of the gsd. A shrinking violet is not representative of what the breed is supposed to be. Must not be a consideration of the judges there, for a weak female to be selected bob.

susie

by susie on 15 March 2016 - 18:03

I really feel sorry for the owner - it´s not fair to condemn one bitch because of the faults that were made for generations of dogs - and it´s not fair to call this bitch unhealthy, or worse, crippled.

This is a picture of the female in question:

http://pic.pedigreedatabase.com/pictures/1978330-676190.jpg

In this stacked picture she doesn´t look bad, she looks like a "normal" showline - what I don´t like is the movement - but honestly - a tiny ring, no line for the dog, no guideline at all, all the time held back and lifted up by the handler, tracked by a horny male - that´s no fun for a female.

I think it´s more than good that public becomes aware of the physical deficits our breed is dealing with, but this witch-hunt is not fair to owner and dog.

For me in this context it´s 10 times worse that untitled/untested/unproven dogs are able to become "best of breed" of a working dog breed ( and that´s not restrained to the German Shepherd dog only ).


Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 15 March 2016 - 19:03

Joanro, I AGREE with you; thank you for the block,btw.
(I WAS going to say: If you want short pithy soundbites,
try Twitter !) I don't care what you think of me, personally
[tho I do wish you wouldn't use me as a target for what
you are receiving elsewhere, LOL], I just want to contribute
to a start to this attempt to get UK breed-lovers to act.
SMH.

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 15 March 2016 - 19:03

Susie, I've got lots of empathy with your POV,
but if we don't grab this opportunity with our
Premier Show - unfortunately centring on this
one dog - we only have the same old unsub-
stantiated grumbling that has been all too easy
for the Brit. GSD community to ignore !

by joanro on 15 March 2016 - 19:03

Hundmutter, I have not responded to anything you have posted here till I noticed you directed your comment at me personally.

Targeting you ? What the heck are you talking about? I havent even read your long winded posts---I just skip over them. 

I blocked you because you annoy me with your petty complaints. You did the same thing a few days ago to me and another member. Best to just stop you with 'block'.


As for length of my posts, is there a tos which prohibits siccincts posts?


Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 15 March 2016 - 20:03

Perhaps you should have read them, Joan. End of.

by joanro on 15 March 2016 - 20:03

I don't want to read your posts. End of.

windwalker18

by windwalker18 on 15 March 2016 - 21:03

The one video of the gaiting I saw the dog was pacing... not even trotting, and nobody seems to have even noticed that. Talk about "Eggbeater" back legs! Some dogs are good only @ side gait, but this poor dog wasn't just a poor mover, she was crippled. This isn't a NEW issue at all, I can remember complaints when Zamp went there that his rear gait was unstable... but THIS is really so obvious that anyone should have been able to see it. We're not talking about "Not correct for the breed..." We're talking about can't walk across a room because she's crippled! Crufts needs to study the breed standards and kick some judges butts!!!

by yadda yadda on 20 March 2016 - 12:03

Hundmutter, The male CC record holder.

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 20 March 2016 - 17:03

Current CC Record is held by a bitch. 2013 I believe, not
yet beat. Sorry to say, I understand she is deceased now.
Can't get a history of producing bad hips out of that, so
which male are you talking about, of UK record holders before
that ? [A. Heiko was the OPPOSITE, renowned for good hip
production ...]





 


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