SchH & PSA titled dogs? - Page 6

Funny that you compare a test that has been around for 10 years to sports that have been tried and true for over 100!!  Then you mention the fact that your foundation is based on SchH??  I'd be willing to bet the farm that in the majority of cases, the reason people do PSA is just because they like bite work and they hate tracking.  Kinda like going to any SchH club in the U.S. where 2 people show up for tracking, several more for obedience and EVERYONE is there for the bite work.  It's all about the glamor work.  After all, who wants to get up and track before work, in the rain, in the heat, in the cold, in the snow?  Come to think of it, I'm going to make up my own sport and have a trial next week.  I think I'll call it American Super Sport, yep that's it A.S.S. and I'll have 4 levels so people can ask "What's and ASS IV?"

Im sorry....are you talking to me? When did I ever say my foundation was in Sch? One of the issues I have with PSA is that it needs tracking. However, PSA does build the dog as well as the dog/handler team. I dont really see it as a test at all. It is potentially more valuable than that. Sch and FR have their limitations and have become such competitive sports that they neglect the benefit that PSA still seems to have. The fact that you are stuck in a sport that has not progressed (but regressed) in 100 yrs is no reason to be bitter.....but maybe so. :)

Wow!!! yet another nameless message board no it all!!!! maybe one day ill learn to train dogs like you untill then we will keep preparing to actually compete im sure we will see you on a trial field never!

You already have, I was the one on the podium and you were the one applauding.

Who cares? Sounds like recess in third grade. Why don't you go pick on the speds that do rally? Or how about flyball? At least everyone is doing something with their dogs. Anything is better than nothing.

And why do you care what anyone else does? Do you care what other people are watching on tv? Do you riddicule co-workers for watching shows you don't? Seems worthless to waste one's time worrying what one finds pleasure in.

It's ok guys, look at all of the post from Duderino. They all are making fun,crying,complaining about someone or something. Your gonna be ok Duderino, you will figure it out.

Sorry Hunter, you'll have to do a lot more to make me cry.  Why is it PSA folk start throwing tantrums when you criticize their training (?).  In comparing sports, I'm very honest about what I see.  Do you have a problem with honesty?  How about you stay on point with subject matter and questions, sound fair? 

The sport of SchH has it's 3 phases for a reason, it tests the dog's natural ability to perform different tasks, some inherent, some trained.  Sure the obedience is impractical and almost seems choreographed these days but it sure 'aint easy to get.  Try it sometime, then try it at a championship level and tell me it doesn't take a good dog and good training to reach the podium.

French Ring obedience although boring is more practical than SchH.  Ring places more emphasis on the bite exercises and in terms of French Ring it features the most athletic decoys of any bite sport and  probably tests the dogs as individuals a bit more than SchH does.

PSA, ASR, NAPD seem to just be representations of Americans trying to prove that we make everything better than everyone else.  My opinion, not true.  We have been "into" the bite sports for right around 40 years here in America with SchH being the first.  Maybe someone could change my mind if they were to take a PSA "Champion" and make their way to the top of the podium at an internationally recognized sport like SchH or FR even on a national scale.  All of the broadcasting I have seen to date is, Joe Blow has a SchH dog with a PSA title, fine, but was this "SchH" titled dog a competitive dog or a club level dog?  No one has shown me big scores on a big stage.  Let's not confuse effort with accomplishment.

oh my gosh,,,,,,  blah blah blah blah blah.  come to a training.  pm me and i will give you directions.  listen to the sour grapes.  my take on things are you are not going to get a world, or national level dog to cross train because it can "confuse" the training.  you will get some "nice" dogs, of folks wanting to dable in other sports.  the world level teams are going to want to hone their skills to a razor sharp edge.  seriously,,,,,,,, until you give a try, or see for yourself first hand, give it a break.....

 No crying, I love both SCH and PSA, hell I love just dog training period.  I would rather some one be honest, so just answer the question don't bash breeds or people for training for what the enjoy. Hell I work top level SCH dogs and PSA dogs all the time so I do see the best of both worlds.

SCH takes discipline and hard work,  Its a great sport to be involved in and yes my goal is to be on the podium in both sports one day. Mike and Ronan is a good example, 2nd place at the 2009 PSA Championships and was this years AWMA IPO 1 Champ. Ronan's sire won the DVG (IPO3) this year and I was told he will be doing PSA this year.