So, what's it's going to be for the GSD forum............... - Page 4

Rik, not everyone on the PDB is a breeder or National level competitor or Conformation expert.  Some don't have aspirations to compete or show at National events.  Some people just love the breed and their pets and come here for advice or to learn more about the breed. 

If you have an interest and experience in showing GSD's and conformation that's great.  You will find that some of the people on the PDB are new to the breed and are here to learn about conformation handling, showing and anatomy.  You will also find some have different opinions about structure than you do.  The GSD has certainly evolved over the years into almost several different breeds.  You have German / European Working lines, show lines, American SL's, White Shepherds, Alsatians etc.  They are all different and each type has it's own  group of admirers.  I have my own personal preferences as I'm sure you do.  IT doesn't mean we should ridicule others for their personal taste or lack of it. 

There are some people on the PDB who lack experience and knowledge and post any way.  Sometimes offering erroneous information which could potentially be dangerous.   One must be really careful when taking any advice off of the Internet..

I,  like you come here for the GSD related content.  I don't like the OT stuff and have made  that clear.  This forum was much better a couple of years ago, better topics, no OT BS and not nearly the drama and insults that are rampant now.  I have owned GSD's for about 25 years, starting with an American SL dog.  In '94 I got a German Sl male.  Back then German Show lines were a little harder than they are now and he was an awesome dog.  V rated, HOT SchH 3 KKL1A, AD.  I showed that dog several times under SV Judge Albrecht Woerner (Thermodos Kennels)  where he got his V rating and KKl1A.  At that time I handled dogs in many conformation shows, including regional and National events.  I started in SchH in 94 with that dog and still decoy every weekend.  In '99 I got my first working line dog and haven't looked back.  I have owned all kinds of GSD;s over the years including a wonderful white GSD. I love the breed and have been involved in GSD rescue.   I can certainy understand why people like their style of GSD.   I like any GSD with a strong stable temperament.  For me temperament and working ability comes first. I think having some experience with different lines and styles keeps me a little open minded. 

All of my dogs are my pets and I work, train and title all of them from pups.  I'm sure with your experience you can add a lot to the forum.  I would recommend not taking everyone so seriously.  I have no issues with Sunsilver or Xeph, I have never had a problem with either one of them.  I understand what you are trying to accomplish but if you insult people while doing it your message will fall on deaf ears.  I spend less and less time here.  I have found some other forums where people are polite and they have moderation.  You  may enjoy some of them even more, the PDB is no longer the premier site for exchanging info on GSD's.  It's a good resource for pedigree info but that's about it lately.

JMO,

Jim  

FREDA:  

THIS   was posted off the thread you just came off of, where you tried to help a person who was already insulted by someonelse.....You , yourself , offerred some expert suggestions and then   RIK offered the following.... I aggree that there is something AMISS here and I hope our forum doesn't   buy his sincerity .....it is certainly not how  postings have been done here for the last three years, that I have been around......

BOB:   I don't think he listened or absorbed what you told him..!!!!

Sorry guys, I think I made it pretty clear in an earlier that when confronted with incredible stupidith, I act incredibly stupid.

Bob, I do regret that you take offense, since I know that you are a serious GSD person

You ask me on another thread if I work my dogs. I answered and now ask you at what level you compete.

Rik

Rik:

I don,t compete against any one, the only competition I have was the last score in my score book.  So what level do you want to call it fat guy level? I call it my level, I and my dog will excell to our best that we can be one step at a time one mistake at a time. When i,m asked for advise I can only give my opinion from my experience thats the best any one can do but I do it with out calling other peoples dogs peices of shit, or acting as if there questions or comments are beneth this sites level that my friend is pure arrogence and that I have no use for or time for. I only purchase dogs from Puppies no older then 10 weeks I believe you arent a real trainer till you,ve taken a dog from pup to final title you never learn the full cycle of life or training till that happens. Offense you have no idea what I take offense to and nothing here offends me more then someone who claims to be learning and will cut down others dogs,training,experience, and have never meet the dog,trainer,person in question. that is real stupidity so to reply to stupidity with stupidity...well you will have to think that one over and answer  your self.

Good luck to you and your dogs and your endevores again try not to take your self too seriously it makes life short and makes your underwear bind...so be more like me and don,t wear any.

                                                                                                                                           Yours Truly Bob McKown

Post Script. Rik if you want to know more about who I am go to the general topic page and look for the Who is Bob McKown thread but first take a big breath because it,s not much of a german shepherd post but it is ...oh my god heaven forbid a bit of levity.