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Koots

by Koots on 04 September 2020 - 15:09

Thanks Nan - the red meat formula seems to working well, along with metamucil. The proof will be when he is on 100% red meat food and the metamucil is eliminated.

by GSCat on 04 September 2020 - 17:09

Nans gsd--

Is there something going on with chicken right now?

Sudden diarrhea issue with my dog and she's getting chicken-based diet.

Yes, message with vet, if can't get it fixed ASAP.



by Nans gsd on 04 September 2020 - 18:09

Not sure GScat but my guys have not been able to eat chicken and chicken products for quite sometime now. You cannot buy decent chicken for humans so why would we expect it to be good for dogs either. Have been trying for quite some time to buy good chicken products for human consumption so, there you know what I know about it.

Saw a gross add with a tub of chicken wings shipped from China that tested positive for COVID 19?? Really made me sick. Just discusting. wth is that about? Grossed me out though. Just not sure about chicken at this time.

by GSCat on 04 September 2020 - 20:09

Thanks.

So far, the chicken and pork for people here have been OK, although sometimes there's shortages. Beef and lamb have been chronically short, and I haven't seen veal since last year. It's actually been years since I bought any food products from China or some other places that source from China, make it into something, and then label it a product of that country. When possible, I'd rather support a local or in-State farmer/rancher, anyway.

I have noticed all the fish cases have been stinkier, so if we ate fish, I wouldn't be buying it right now.








by hexe on 08 September 2020 - 05:09

Re the chicken wings that tested positive for Covid-19, those originated in Brazil, and were shipped to China, where a sample of the frozen product was tested.

by SitasMom on 17 September 2020 - 15:09

Most grain free diets have too many legumes in them, including TOTW....

IMO, from reading many articles......

Soy, lentils, chickpeas, potatoes.......are not good for a puppy, much less a full grown dog. Legumes have lots of un-digestible protein, but legumes considered protein by the manufacture! Soy is the absolute worst as it has pseudo-estrogens this stuff wrecks havoc on their developing endocrine systems, and studies have suggest it interferes with proper digestion including the utilization of taurine, which of ultimate importance to proper heart health and function.

I've used Purina Proplan large puppy for the past 5 years and have been VERY HAPPY with the results.

Before that I used TOTW with my puppies and was not especially happy...Puppies matured smaller than expected, they tended to get sick often, they didn't seem to have the energy they should have had, etc. Since changing puppies are growing to expected size, they're super energetic, training is easier as they have more drives, the look and act much healthier in general. Hip/elbows have been either excellent or good and normal...

As a matter of fact, after using TOTW for my adult dogs for 8 years, I found that my bitches were coming up empty! I switch to Purina ProPlan Sport and have had full litters again. If a bitch cannot get pregnant there is something dead wrong with the food they're eating. Our old dog was 9 at the time, and at death's door... after switching he came back... He's 12 now and is happy to go outside and play fetch and is healthier then when he was 9!

Now I feed twice a day:
Purina ProPlan 30/20
2 ounces of raw Beef heart
2 ounces raw Beef liver

All of my dogs are healthy, active and happy.

Everyone has to do their own research and observations on their own dogs to determine what is best...
If you ask, you'll get plenty of replies, as there are several "camps" [raw feeders, grain free feeders, and the rest of us].
Each have great arguments for and against their style....but your pup/dog is the ultimate judge.





by Triskell on 17 September 2020 - 17:09

I cook fresh for my dog everyday - Pasta, Eggs, Chickpeas, Carrots, Chicken, Olive oil. She thrives on it - only takes 30 minutes to prepare, and at least I know what she is really eating.

GK1

by GK1 on 18 September 2020 - 16:09

(MKGermanShepherd) Soooo... most breeds come from poor countries. Do you really think breeds have been fed grain free and high protein diets in counties that can barely afford to feed their people...the answer is no and even in the wild wolves add grasses, grains and berries to their diets. Their bodies need a certain balance and some breeds a high protein diet is hard on and can cause bone and health issues. Don't fall into the Adkins diets for dogs...

Interesting insight.  Here in affluent US, big stores have big walls of commercial dog food and supplements for virtually every price point and ingredient profile.  Certainly a plus to have such options.  The downside to this abundance of calorically dense, packaged feed is we have too many fat and sedentary dogs.  I’m starting to think the type of food has less impact on long term wellness than amount, and keeping a dog thin and physically active thru all life stages. 

Regarding chicken proteins, how can chicken industrially processed and chemically enhanced for an extended shelf life have any nutritional resemblance to organic whole raw chicken purchased fresh?

(Triskell) I cook fresh for my dog everyday - Pasta, Eggs, Chickpeas, Carrots, Chicken, Olive oil. She thrives on it - only takes 30 minutes to prepare, and at least I know what she is really eating.

That's an incredible recipe. 


by jillmissal on 21 September 2020 - 09:09

OP, Hill's/Science Diet and Royal Canin are what I feed my dogs. The boutique foods and fad diets (raw, home cooked etc) should be avoided for many reasons; stick with one of the established companies with a cadre of veterinary nutritionists and a history of extensive and sound scientific research (Hill's, Royal Canin, Eukanuba, Purina, Iams).

The leading experts in canine nutrition have a great site which can be found here: https://vetnutrition.tufts.edu/faqs/

There is a TON of great information on that site written in accessible layman's terms and backed up by real studies and facts.





 


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