Hunt drive does it compliment fight drive in protection work? what do you say. - Page 2

tbm1874 is there a problem?

I have no personal problem with you, I do not even know who you are. 

This is what I do have a problem with...

I do have a problem when someone plugs post after post after post about training but fails to give any information about who they are.  Name? Website? Accomplishments?  I look up MJA K9 online and the only thing that comes up is a few videos on Youtube and a MySpace page with a few photos of bitework yet I am supposed to believe that you have all the experience that you say? All of the trainers that I now of are very proud to list accomplishments of each and every step along their way on some sort of professional website, esp when they are trying to push their dogs, breeding program or business in general on prospectivce clients such as those on message boards.

I do not agree with 1/2 of the things you have posted about in regards to hunt, ball, fight drive and other misc topics but we are of course each entitled to our own opinions.  I do not believe a dog driving in deeper to the bite has a single thing to do with the dog's hunt drive as you state.  I have seen phenomenal dogs in bitework that have ZERO hunt drive at all and of course those that have tremendous hunt drive that are terrible in bitework.  The theory just doesn't make sense.  You also state that no one else offers assistance to new Mal owners.  I'm not sure why you feel that way, I can call off names of many top trainers off the top of my head that are ready and willing to help.

I have also trained with Rick Furrow, Greg Williams, the late Joe Morris and many others in that area and in PSA, so what.

Maybe someone can list all the drives with examples and discriptions  ? ? 

 .. my Mal has a short attention span for the ball. Our ball sessions are short, maybe 1/2 hour until she decides she would rather chase a wood log or tug. When I first show her the ball, she's interested but not like she is with the wood log or tug. She'll get the ball and bring it back maybe 2 dozen times, then decides to find wood or a large tree branch instead. I personally think she likes useing her teeth to shred the wood or with the tug she thrashes it around wildly. She doesn't do this with the ball.

We still play ball all the time .. I just decide to stop the play session before she decides to quit herself.

As far as the wood logs and tugs .. she get's crazy on them, and would play for hours. But she doesn't near as much with the ball.

What does this mean ?

The reason I asked you if there was a problem cause your post came across the wrong way ,I have a website for my dog here it is if you missed it www.nasvhillek9.com ,www.bloedlijnen.nl  has my dog Carlo Van Neerland listed.you will have to click the American flag to translate in english.

I have alot of years training dogs and have titled dogs from puppy to adult and have trained with alot of good trainers who dont worry about fancy web sites . I am an old school trainer that  did not realize that I should have listed everything I have done, I am not real big on typing and thank you for the advice.

Since you bring up what I have done ,what have you done if you dont mind me asking?

I really dont see how a simple post is turning into a great debate.

I don't see where there is a great debate going on, just simple discussion is all.

It really doesn't matter what I have done, if anything at all.  I am not the one spamming a message board with post after post about training concepts, malinois breedings, etc.  if I were I would certainly put my name, business, website and credentials.

  So you own Nashville K9? I thought you were in Florida? Color me confused.

What the heck, since you asked, my GSD has his PSA PDC as well.

 OK, so what happens when you don't think that hunt drive has anything to do with biting, and you think "fight drive" is a crock of poop as well ?????

I know very little about PSA, other than it looks like a crappy version of Mondio ring. But I will question you on this point. Does the PSA PDC push a dog into what you would call fight drive ?????

Cool that you have a nice dog. Have you thought of doing Mondio, or French ring as well ????

Jeff,

 The PDC (Protection Dog Certificate) is similar to the brevet in the ring sports. It isn't required to do to compete in the one. For some poeple it's a good stepping stone.

It's safe to say that she won't be doing any Mondio Ring in the future.

A quick edit.........she'll be doing some French Ring soon.

 No Mondio????