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The dog park is NOT a place any serious owner would ever take a dog to nor is it ever recommended as any training method.
You dont socialise a dog in an environment of untrained out of control dogs with dweeby owners.
No dog needs to accept other dogs as friends to hang out and have dates and coffee with, all dogs need to be NEUTRAL to other dogs, end of.

Hired Dog, it's a loosing battle. Dog Whisperer mentality....like the pied piper the dogs will all fall into lock step and the lion will lie down with the lamb.

Its this Disneyfied, looking at the world through rose lenses that will do the dog world in Joan, its happening in front of our eyes, i just sit here and shake my head..

Sad, but true, Hired Dog. All dogs are supposed to be (all in one breath) happy tail wagging romp in the dog park mindless thundershirt wearing all breeds are the same dog in a different coat that wouldn't have the sense to survive in the wild for even a day for the owners ( I mean PC guardians) of today's society.

Manage - control- defuse

 problem needs to be evaluated on premises where it is happening and not at  a place of convenience for some 'behaviorist".  I would cancel an appointment to such behaviorist.!

Manage 

 1/ 6 foot fence

 2/ do not allow the behavior to happen again by denying the dog such opportunity.

3/ 100% ( at least for time being) separate the dogs in training , camping, car riding,...you get the point  and training. One out one in. Never together. Dogs should be people oriented and not dog oriented. Work on that. 

Control

+/- obedience training which enables you not just teach commands but also to establish leadership position. That then enables you to control the dog in critical situations an defuse the aggression by relinquishing to you  the decision right  to be aggressive. 

 When the dog sees the source of his aggression but before he gets aggressive, then Command the dog to down and then heel in opposite direction. 

 Defuse  through Reconditioning. 

 

Walk in areas ( park your front yard)  where there are sources of his aggression . As soon as your dog sees sources of his aggression but before  it gets worry or aggressive towards them  start acting crazily happy and play tug with the dog or use treat if he does not play.  It  is simple Pavlov's  conditioning.  Stimulus( bell, or in this case another dog) -> reward ( food or tug play) . This approach takes at least 100x  -300x repetitions but is effective if done consistently = every time your dog sees the dog.  The result is then that when your dog  sees sources of his aggression instead adrenaline or what ever unhappy hormone in his brain will be exchanged with endorphin or what ever " happy hormone" in his brain.    Use  the exercise on it's own  or  immediately  before what is  described in "Control"- dawn the dog and heel 180* away from the source of the aggression.  

Prager Hans

Conclusion:

1/ do not leave your dogs - any dogs ever unsupervised  and unrestrained in front or back unfenced yard!

2/ for everyday life use +/- training. In 40+ years of my training all overly aggressive or overly protective dogs were trained with+ only or were not trained at all. 

I help people for free over the phone. 

3/ preempt the problem by proper training "for every day life" ( not competition) training. It is easier  to prevent then to fix a problem. Once the problem occurs it will always be there and it will rare his head in critical situation.

 What the dog learns first ( good or bad) he learns and likes  best  and will revert to under stress no matter what additional training you add on top of it. 

 Thus train before the problem not after the problem. 

 Prager Hans

Paul Garisson:

 No offense intended here but I do not get what you mean. when you say these ( italicized) words. 

Dogs that are 100% confident never see a threat thus have no reason bite. 

So confident dogs do not  see a threat?  Are they blind then?  And confident dogs do not bite? So police trained K9s are not confident?  Can you clarify this? 

Again I am sorry,... just like to be clear on what you mean.....

 Prager Hans

 

I read the post as an explanation to op's dogs' behavior in that a 100% confident dog never sees a threat WHERE THERE IS NONE as in people walking across the yard, as op stated, who are being bitten by their Mali. But a "weak nerved= insecure dog", does see a threat where there is none and might bite, motivated by fear.
And I agree with that 100%.
It is understandable, when taken completely out of context, that the phrase ; "Dogs 100% confident never see a threat thus have no reason to bite.", can be misconstrued to mistakenly believe it means "trained Police k9's are not confident", etc.
JMO

Hans Really?

You have never answered any of my questions. Not on your forum or a private message. If you want me to answer this I would be happy to but first respond to me.

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To Paul Garrison.

It may be so but I am not aware of any questions I did not answer to you.I do not read all the posts on my forum. Also I did not get or did not see any private message from you on my forum. If you want me to answer your questions then e mail me.