IPO-R title - Page 5

for the herding, HGH is very different from c course in AKC. I would not consider c course herding enough of a breeding criteria in a gsd IMO but HGH is so much more and I do.

Is it just me.....or are you guys only seeing this thread in the working section as well? It doesn't come up on the latest posts for me.
 

I believe it was moved
 

@clc29 just to clarify, I said IPO-3 and Tr 1-3 trained dogs are usually not able to do well in FH, RH, TDX and VST.  I know the FH is demanding and can be a good basis for evaluation of SAR/working dogs, but from what I have seen very, very few people doing IPO 1-3 and Tr 1-3 try to get the FH title, many do not even know it exists or what it is.  The few times I have seen some try it, they think its just like the Tr 1-3 and fail miserably when they hit cross tracks.  So, yes I agree with you the FH is a good indicator of tracking ability, but in contrast I do not think the IPO 1-3 tracking phase and the stand alone Tr 1-3 are, since many have learned to "game" them training it like obedience.

and yes, somehow this thread disappeared from the new/latest topics on the forum.

Also does anyone have any idea how USCA is actually handling IPO-R and not just some incorrect statements said at a trial?

All you need in Europe is Show Rating is a G or higher, UV. a IPO  Title1 -2 or 3, the Male Dog must be no older than 3 years old, and then the Dog is qualified to go for a KKL breed survey? that is all i needed to know. i personally do not bother about other tests? my Dog has done the above and also passed B.O.P. Tests, know nothing of rules from the USA etc, that is is all that interests me all these watered down titles mean nothing. 
as for a dog in IPO working in the Dark or Daylight then Yes, we do it any weather any time. Try Tracking in the dark with just a small light on your forehead shining down and tracking over Grass, Roads, Concrete, Mud, Snow through Water and Woods with 10 to 12 items that is a piece of Cake and is a normal thing to do two or three times a week Summer or Winter it never stops
. some are good Readers on here they swat it up and it makes them look important and in the know But real life done it is the only proof, like getting in the ring and facing the opponent not just talking a good fight, Performance is the only proof of one has done in real life not internet talk.
Steve1

OMG, this is a rules discussion in the USA, per the WDA or USCA accepting the RH title or HGH as equivalent to an IPO 3 for show rating and breed survey.  We are not here to argue about which is better, HGH, RH2 or IPO3. Suzie already contradicted you point steve1, by posting the actual rule in German, its seems service dogs whom do not have an IPO3, RH2 or HGH can qualify, so your point is moot.  Can some of you PLEASE hold your tongues unless you can contribute to what the rules will allow?

SO...does anyone have any idea how USCA or WDA is actually handling IPO-R beyond hearsay?

I dispute that a HGH title will allow that dog to get a KKL Korung. without doing the usual IPO tests and what is required as i said above to gain a korung
INTERNATIONAL PRUFUNGORDEN / INTERNATIONAL  WORKING TESTS  IPO according to the International Rules KOERKLASSE 1, and it does not mention an HGH title as being recognized good enough to go for a KKL.
and momosgarbage I too am a member of the SV
Who the hell do you think you are talking to us People as if you are a school marm. you would not have the bottle speak to me or others on here face to face like it so refrain from doing it on this Forum, you have no more rights than any one else.
Now i asked you in another thread WHAT your Dogs have been awarded not only in IPO Sport but anything else because you think you are so much of an expert in every subject relating to dogs, NOW answer the bloody question school marm and straight out WHAT Titles have you put on your dogs no faffing about with fancy words just tell us inferior beings so we can all bow our heads to you in awe, Because i think you are just a reader up of stuff and in real life a person of little or no substance
and as for your FH that lady would be a piece of cake as i said before NO PROBLEM
Steve1

steve feel free to counter the rules that suzie posted, since you are more aware of the nuances of the SV rules than the rest of us.  BUT, nobody here wants to hear you brag about your "conquests", this is still a discussion about the evolution of the rules, not your trophy mantel.  Also stop "butting" your way into my comments, I wasn't even addressing you until my last post.  I also did answer about what titles have put on dogs, but you were too illiterate in the last post to understand, go back and read it again.  But then again according to you, I "read up on stuff" too much. Ha...as if such a thing is a negative, only to a troglodyte.

Thanks clc29 for starting the dialog, I guess we are in "wait and see" mode now for the rules update.