Roached backs - spread the religion! - Page 6

So whats the problem?? yes the most Malinois are bred for sharp working , thats no secret. if you adore these type of dogs then you are not a GSD person ,then you are a working type ,with no furter interest in a race, and thats not bad at all but leave our race and stay with that ugly creatures,

Don't forget to talk about retaining the characteristics that make the GSD the premier tending breed. It's all about athleticism and agility. Expecting a bulky, overdone, overangulated GSD to tend sheep 24/7 is like asking a body builder to run the Boston Marathon. These overdone dogs might make it over the A-frame and they might earn a Sch III and pass their bitework, but do they have the correct anatomy and endurance to tend a flock?

the gsd was at one time breed for "sharp working" now more show people are involved. now we have golden retrievers in a gsd body.

Clearwater, maybe it's the language barrier going on with your posts, but I can't help but ask why you always come acrossed as being so angry whenever anyone has an opinion on anything that differs from yours? It is belittling of others for you to be saying - leave the race - as you have said more than once on this board.

well stated blitzen

Preston wrote "What I found was related to hip dysplasia was lack of rear thigh muscle mass. Low muscle mass was associated with more HD and high muscle mass associated with much less HD." Yes, but that doesn't necessarily mean a longer croup, with more places to attach muscles is going to prevent HD (though it may be valuable for other reasons, like increasing power and thrust.) I think what you are seeing is the HD CAUSING the low muscle mass, because the dog is in pain, therefore doesn't use its muscles as much. We have to be careful in determining which is the cause and which is the effect here. Any time I have seen loss of muscle mass in my dogs, it has been a warning sign of other problems.

To reiterate Preston's post and embellish upon it can only be a plus in my book, Sunsilver. He comes up with some very useful pieces of info on a regular basis. (Remember the 'tail'). This one hit a note with me because I'm always checking out the thigh muscles on my youngster. G-d forgive me, I play this game on a regular basis. I pull up the picture of a dog on the database---cover his hip score---and guess at the result according to how the back end looks.

I'd like to know your percentages LMH!

I would too, 4pack! :-)

Clearwater said... "most Malinois are bred for sharp working , thats no secret. if you adore these type of dogs then you are not a GSD person ,then you are a working type ,with no furter interest in a race, and thats not bad at all but leave our race and stay with that ugly creatures" Here's my "ugly" working dog... http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/477754.html Here's my "ugly" working dog's sire... a "V" rated GSD! - 100% DDR 100% old school working dog http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/65025.html How about an "ugly" working dog back from the day when there was no split between show and working lines... Bodo vom Lierburg - 1967 Sieger Sorry but I AM a "GSD person" and I make no apologies that my dog descends from lines of dogs bred for "sharp working". My dog IS part of the "race" whether you acknowledge him to be or not. I'm sticking true to Max's intention for the breed... working dogs, so your comment is out of line. Yvette & Ice von haus Cimmerian