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by vhsdogs on 13 January 2010 - 17:01
She stayed the night in Oklahoma, and was on the road again this morning, somewhere around OK City,Ok.
by Louise M. Penery on 13 January 2010 - 17:01
hexe: Everybody makes missteps. It's just a part of being an imperfect living creature. There does come a point, however, when one has to take a hard look at the choices one makes, and the consequences of those choices, and realize that the only way to stop experiencing the same kind of shit in life is to stop making the same kind of choices time and again.
To do otherwise is to honor a tried but true pattern similar to recidivism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recidivism).
Then, there is the move to Modesto (where Shelley lived with these same "friends" for ~1 year after her divorce from still another abuser over 10 years ago)--which locale is one of today's socio-econonmic armpits of California--the homeless, drugs, unemployment, record home foreclosures, etc.
SSDD.....very sad...when it involves helpless animals--JMHO....
by MaggieMae on 13 January 2010 - 18:01
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by steve1 on 13 January 2010 - 18:01
Raymond
your language is that what you read in that book you call a Bible, it shows one thing though you are as i have said many times a low life go and take a sedative or something a bit stronger to calm you down, i am not at all impressed with the rubbish you spout
Your opinion of me means nothing i would not walk over you if you were laying in the pavement thats what i think of you, absolutely zero
Steve1
your language is that what you read in that book you call a Bible, it shows one thing though you are as i have said many times a low life go and take a sedative or something a bit stronger to calm you down, i am not at all impressed with the rubbish you spout
Your opinion of me means nothing i would not walk over you if you were laying in the pavement thats what i think of you, absolutely zero
Steve1
by steve1 on 13 January 2010 - 18:01
What beats me is why they have to even comment regarding Shelley if you are not prepared to help her in some way why then knock her, and this is to Louise and autobahn, You are acting as Judge and Jury when you have no right to do so just because you do not approve, so thats okay but why bother to post in that case unless you do it to make things even harder for the Lady
But perhaps you get off on doing such things only you two know that. However most Guys on here are with her so really both of you are wasting your time
People like me reply but at the end of the day no one cares what you think. But there may come a time when you face a similar problem but will you have the Guts that Shelley has to undertake it, and by the way you both write i have my doubts that you would
Steve1
But perhaps you get off on doing such things only you two know that. However most Guys on here are with her so really both of you are wasting your time
People like me reply but at the end of the day no one cares what you think. But there may come a time when you face a similar problem but will you have the Guts that Shelley has to undertake it, and by the way you both write i have my doubts that you would
Steve1
by Davren on 13 January 2010 - 18:01
To Maggie: I say "perfect" song. If the shoe fits....
To Steve1: I applaud your dedication and response. "If you cannot say something nice, don't say nothing at all"
Ignore the negative messages Shelley and keep moving forward to a new life!
You have much support here.
To Steve1: I applaud your dedication and response. "If you cannot say something nice, don't say nothing at all"
Ignore the negative messages Shelley and keep moving forward to a new life!
You have much support here.
by GSDSRULE on 13 January 2010 - 18:01
Autobahn, Sunshine, GSDSRULE -- STFU !!
Your posts reveal your lack of compassion for another .... One day, you may face adversity and need help and words of encouragement.
Autobahn,GSDrule,sunshine, and others being so judgmental and condemning towards Shelly,
I can see that you have never had life throw you a major curve ball, never awakened one day and asked yourself HOW did this happen?, how did I get myself in this situation?.
I have compassion for SS and her dogs. That doesn't mean I'm gonna say it was A-OK to breed a dog while she was in this situation. What nonsense, to think I have never had adversity and needed help and kind words. I have also had times when people needed to be HONEST to me about a situation. Breeding this bitch at this time was a lame choice. I don't care how nice she is and how great a dog trainer she is, it was a stupid decision.
And don't tell me to STFU, you twit.
Your posts reveal your lack of compassion for another .... One day, you may face adversity and need help and words of encouragement.
Autobahn,GSDrule,sunshine, and others being so judgmental and condemning towards Shelly,
I can see that you have never had life throw you a major curve ball, never awakened one day and asked yourself HOW did this happen?, how did I get myself in this situation?.
I have compassion for SS and her dogs. That doesn't mean I'm gonna say it was A-OK to breed a dog while she was in this situation. What nonsense, to think I have never had adversity and needed help and kind words. I have also had times when people needed to be HONEST to me about a situation. Breeding this bitch at this time was a lame choice. I don't care how nice she is and how great a dog trainer she is, it was a stupid decision.
And don't tell me to STFU, you twit.
by Geblaut on 13 January 2010 - 18:01
Ok, I have been on this board for many, many years and have seen the great things that can be done and the wonderful show of comradery amongst many of the member here. I have not posted until now but this thread takes the cake! I have known Shelley for a number of years and she is truly a person with a good heart, the soul of warrior and a person who WILL accomplish her goals. She is no scammer as has been insinuated here by sunshine??. (Sunshine, take your ax to grind somewhere else!)
Now, when Shelley needs the help and moral support of the members of this board the most, she is subjected to the ramblings of a**holes like Autobahn, GSDSRULE & sunshine?? And the ignorance of questions posed by Louise M Penery (get off your high horse. You’re a has been) & JudyK (to answer your question---if you need a C-section you go to a vet. I believe they are located in every state in the USA). Autobahn, you just like to hear yourself talk (no one else does) and you should just take the next EXIT and get lost! Why don’t you come out of the closet and let everyone know exactly WHO you are! Screen names are a wonderful thing since people can have SO MANY OF THEM TO HIDE BEHIND! IP addresses don’t lie, just something to keep in mind! There was also a request made for Shelley to publicly acknowledge the people who have helped her from the beginning when she left her husband. Well, here we go!
Shelley would like to publicly THANK Steve & Connie Miller who without their help, she may not have found the inner strength to leave a physically and emotionally abusive situation. I can speak to this because I have heard it, first hand. She is also thankful for all of the generosity, with offers of prayers, moral support and financial assistance shown by members of this board, many of whom do not post and prefer to remain anonymous. Then there is Molly Graf, who without her offer of help Shelley may be in a much better position than she is now. Molly opened her home to Shelley at one of her lowest emotional points, oh, at the price of $600. Month plus $63. Per day boarding costs for her dogs and then generously offered to have Shelley “work it off” by working in her kennel cleaning and feeding 7 days a week, yes weekends as well so Molly could go off and train, take weekend trips away leaving Shelley in charge 24/7 etc. When Shelley intended to leave and take Gabi with her (Shelley had signed a co-ownership over a year ago with Molly and oh by the way was JUST submitted), suddenly Shelley was presented with a bill for boarding for Gabi since delivery of her last litter at $18 per day, Oh, and a contract stating she owed 5 months of rent & board, (Molly again generously gave her a $600. Credit for the work she had done for the last few months) AND that she would not be allowed to take her dogs or her belongings until it was signed and witnessed! There were 2 witnesses to this, so again it is fact. Under duress, Shelley signed this egregious document and was forced to leave in an ice storm on New Year’s eve. Once I received a copy of this, I counseled her to sign this document since it is not worth the paper it is written on. Oh, and did I mention that there was another contract that Molly wanted signed?? It was a Power of Attorney over Shelley’s dogs! This should answer any questions that some of the above mentioned people had as to WHY she left when she did. Each additional day was costing her $63, money which I am sure all of you are aware she did not have and it was more than obvious she was not wanted there because she was no longer seen as income. Regarding the breeding of Shelley’s bitch, many question WHY she did it? Well, again, Molly encouraged her to and even held the bitch for breeding! THEN Shelley was asked to LEAVE HER AT MOLLY’S to whelp the litter and they could split the profits. Now, I ask you all, take a look at the motives here. MONEY! In no way will
Now, when Shelley needs the help and moral support of the members of this board the most, she is subjected to the ramblings of a**holes like Autobahn, GSDSRULE & sunshine?? And the ignorance of questions posed by Louise M Penery (get off your high horse. You’re a has been) & JudyK (to answer your question---if you need a C-section you go to a vet. I believe they are located in every state in the USA). Autobahn, you just like to hear yourself talk (no one else does) and you should just take the next EXIT and get lost! Why don’t you come out of the closet and let everyone know exactly WHO you are! Screen names are a wonderful thing since people can have SO MANY OF THEM TO HIDE BEHIND! IP addresses don’t lie, just something to keep in mind! There was also a request made for Shelley to publicly acknowledge the people who have helped her from the beginning when she left her husband. Well, here we go!
Shelley would like to publicly THANK Steve & Connie Miller who without their help, she may not have found the inner strength to leave a physically and emotionally abusive situation. I can speak to this because I have heard it, first hand. She is also thankful for all of the generosity, with offers of prayers, moral support and financial assistance shown by members of this board, many of whom do not post and prefer to remain anonymous. Then there is Molly Graf, who without her offer of help Shelley may be in a much better position than she is now. Molly opened her home to Shelley at one of her lowest emotional points, oh, at the price of $600. Month plus $63. Per day boarding costs for her dogs and then generously offered to have Shelley “work it off” by working in her kennel cleaning and feeding 7 days a week, yes weekends as well so Molly could go off and train, take weekend trips away leaving Shelley in charge 24/7 etc. When Shelley intended to leave and take Gabi with her (Shelley had signed a co-ownership over a year ago with Molly and oh by the way was JUST submitted), suddenly Shelley was presented with a bill for boarding for Gabi since delivery of her last litter at $18 per day, Oh, and a contract stating she owed 5 months of rent & board, (Molly again generously gave her a $600. Credit for the work she had done for the last few months) AND that she would not be allowed to take her dogs or her belongings until it was signed and witnessed! There were 2 witnesses to this, so again it is fact. Under duress, Shelley signed this egregious document and was forced to leave in an ice storm on New Year’s eve. Once I received a copy of this, I counseled her to sign this document since it is not worth the paper it is written on. Oh, and did I mention that there was another contract that Molly wanted signed?? It was a Power of Attorney over Shelley’s dogs! This should answer any questions that some of the above mentioned people had as to WHY she left when she did. Each additional day was costing her $63, money which I am sure all of you are aware she did not have and it was more than obvious she was not wanted there because she was no longer seen as income. Regarding the breeding of Shelley’s bitch, many question WHY she did it? Well, again, Molly encouraged her to and even held the bitch for breeding! THEN Shelley was asked to LEAVE HER AT MOLLY’S to whelp the litter and they could split the profits. Now, I ask you all, take a look at the motives here. MONEY! In no way will
by Geblaut on 13 January 2010 - 18:01
(cont) I ever be convinced that the “supposed friendship” was anything other than a way to manipulate a fragile situation for profit.
Shelley would also like to thank all the members of this board that have offered her a hot meal, a roof over her head and warm places for her dogs, and their “true” friendship without expecting anything in return….to those people, may your offers be returned to you tenfold because they were made from the heart.
Shelley is trying to overcome adversity and make something positive out of it. She has been abused, both physically and emotionally and the emotional abuse takes much longer to heal. And yes, I have been there! There is so much love and compassion in so many of you and for that Shelley will be eternally grateful! So CrazyboutDogs, Raymond, Moons, MaggieMae, Debisue, steve1, venzosmom, Pharoah, Sunsilver, mobjack, CrysBuck25, Davren, JRANDSOM, malshep, beetree, spernagsds, Bob McKown, michael49, vhsdogs and any other supporters that I may have missed, please keep up the prayers and moral support that Shelley continues to need and will need long after she arrives home in CA. She will get back on her feet, rebuild her confidence and make a comeback in the “world of competition.” She has a home waiting for her, with a whelping box all set up, by the way, and a club, a training field right outside her door and many great helpers to enjoy! Shelley has already had 1 of my dogs and I, for one, will be sending 2 more to her once she is settled, for titling and I cannot think of anyone I would trust more with the care of my dogs!
P.S. Shelley has made it to Amarillo TX!
Shelley would also like to thank all the members of this board that have offered her a hot meal, a roof over her head and warm places for her dogs, and their “true” friendship without expecting anything in return….to those people, may your offers be returned to you tenfold because they were made from the heart.
Shelley is trying to overcome adversity and make something positive out of it. She has been abused, both physically and emotionally and the emotional abuse takes much longer to heal. And yes, I have been there! There is so much love and compassion in so many of you and for that Shelley will be eternally grateful! So CrazyboutDogs, Raymond, Moons, MaggieMae, Debisue, steve1, venzosmom, Pharoah, Sunsilver, mobjack, CrysBuck25, Davren, JRANDSOM, malshep, beetree, spernagsds, Bob McKown, michael49, vhsdogs and any other supporters that I may have missed, please keep up the prayers and moral support that Shelley continues to need and will need long after she arrives home in CA. She will get back on her feet, rebuild her confidence and make a comeback in the “world of competition.” She has a home waiting for her, with a whelping box all set up, by the way, and a club, a training field right outside her door and many great helpers to enjoy! Shelley has already had 1 of my dogs and I, for one, will be sending 2 more to her once she is settled, for titling and I cannot think of anyone I would trust more with the care of my dogs!
P.S. Shelley has made it to Amarillo TX!
by GSDSRULE on 13 January 2010 - 18:01
I offered a pit stop on the other thread. That's all I have to offer at this time.
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