Pit Bull family pet Mauls 4 year old in Texas - Page 8

Angela, I am sure that you are a responsible owner but you still do not answer the question.  I would have no problem explaining in great detail exactly why GSDs are my breed of choice and why no other breed in existence would be the same to me.  Just ask my friends, I am sure I have boored them senseless on the subject. LOL  But you would prefer to attack me than answer. 

Ram, the GSD was certainly NOT bred for "herding sheep, period."  They were bred as an all around working dog that can excell at herding sheep.  You may have heard of the term "Golden Middle?"  And BTW you CAN get a Yorkie to hit a sleeve, I''ve done it.

Attacks such as these add fuel to the BSL fire and you KNOW that when these are passed it will NOT be just PBTs that are banned.  How many of you are going to be happy campers when they tell you that you cannot keep your well trained and well bred GSD because another pit has injured another person.  Not I. 

Angela, do you know how prey drive works? It's the reason that the majority of dog bite victims are small children. It's the reason why lap dogs running with large dogs in dog parks are sometimes grabbed and shaken to death by the big dogs.

Pit bulls are a danger to small children due to their high prey drive. Yes, this can be overcome by early socialization, but sometimes that's not enough, as in the case of this 2 year old child.

OK I need to make a post here... I have also owned and bred pit bulls for over 15 years. My oldest one is 12 years old. My second oldest was 10 and passed away last year. I also have an 8 year old pit bull.

 I have also rescued more pit bulls than anyone here can probably imagine. Most were able to be adopted out. Others were not. I have no problem admitting that there are BAD pit bulls because there are.

I have 4 children. The oldest is almost 10. It is very unfair to say that you should not own a pit bull if you have children. I am responsible with my dogs and my kids. And my kids are never left alone with ANY of my dogs. My dogs have never as much made an ugly face at my children.

Oh I can totally agree that there are people who should not own pit bulls, just as there are people who should not own any animal. Period.

As far as the airlines go, you CAN ship a pit bull puppy under the age of SIX months through Delta (Delta Dash) I did this about two weeks ago.

Here is a picture of my oldest son with our 4 month old puppy.

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Proud Shepherd Poppa, I wouldn't mind sharing what I like about the pit bull :) .... It is true that pit bulls were bred for aggression, but DOG aggression. Man-biters were normally culled since the owners of the fighting dogs were in the pit with their fighting dogs and putting their hands on the dogs. Most breeds of dogs will spin around and bite you if they are in the middle of a squabble and you try to break it up.

Pit bulls, (if I may generalize) DO have a temperment that is different from other breeds.  The traits I like in my own dogs are probably the same as others see in their own breeds after many years of owning them....Mine are consistently  loyal, courageous, intelligent, stable-minded, self-confident, powerful, protective, playful (active and athletic), loving, happy-go-lucky. They have a low grooming requirement too which is great :) They are not too big and not too small.  Pit bulls can be used for so many other purposes other than "fighting" or to "look tough."

I am well aware what my dogs are capable of doing, which is why they are all well trained. They never run loose all over the neighborhood. They are not chained to a tree all day. And I certainly don't have the "my dogs would never hurt anyone or another dog...ever!" attitude. I know better. Dogs will be dogs, people go to humanizing them and awful things happen.  I have learned over the years how to read a dog pretty darn good when it comes to knowing what he's going to do before he does it. All the rescues I have done have helped me gain experience there. 

I hate to tell u Ramgsd    but I talked to all the ones above last night that I listed..  Delta told me no pit bull unless under  6mos old and 20lbs and the continental same   and Southwest not at all  and Southeast not at all....

American airlines will ship if sign paperwork and health cert and proper attitude upon loading... Texaslady 271 just stated the same thing about Delta....

United was closed in Dallas   Its too late....doesnt matter= anyway     the airlines I listed above I talked to them myself and that is what I was told...

Im not going to argue with you about....Not only have the airlines limited shipping them but many cities all over the Us are taking steps to ban them , which I do not know if I agree with that or not...

WOwow   Proudshepherd pappa   :Ramgsd knows it all ,,,   he knows about what  the shepherd was bred for.... Hes real quick to run someone else down , but he know all about a shepherd/,,,,??? Your snide know it all Yellowrose" remark doesnt bother me at all.....I could care less about who or what you think     .....just carry on with your pit bull    bullcorn...

Go on over to the pitbull database...with all your cronies...Youve made your point....

poor rose. which is it? they've totally banned shipping(as you first stated) or they've limited shipping? let's get your falsehoods straight before you type. like i said the two listed above told me their was no restrictions for the APBT other that health cert., temp. proper atitude upon loading. the same as any other breed. maybe it's just from the inbreds from texas that they don't want to ship for. texas is the biggest reason why laws on interstate and foreign travel are so stringent now. texas has a big problem because so many take their dogs down to mexico where dog fighting is legal.  and know i don't know it all. but it's obvious i know more than you. and yes i no doubt know more than you about not only the APBT but the GSD also have been around shepherds my whole life and bred, competed and titled many from both breeds. it seems that all you do is run your mouth. never help anyone with your posts. you give false info. that you state you've read somewhere "credible" then in the same thread change your statements. first the breed was totally banned from shipping then the were just restricted. now which is it? come on now let's try and make this new falsehood the best yet. if you had half the brain you try to act like you have, you would know exactly why the airlines are trying to make sure their not transporting fighting animals. it's called liability. have you read the new laws on the penalties for transporting a fighting animal? of course not it's much to hard for you to read and you would rather just spout off whatever nonsense comes into you little head.  SNIDE comment??? you mean TRUTHFUL comment. you spouted off incorect info that you later had to artfully retract so it didn't make you look like a total idiot.   oh and many cities are trying to ban them. no kidding. many cities are als trying to ban the ROTT and GSD as well. heck  when the woman in california was killed by her neighbors presa canaro's many cities tried to ban them as well. my city was one and not did this city not have a registered presa the entire county didn't have one. the knee jerk reaction is always the same "BAN, KILL, GET RID OF" let's pray we don't get another rash of GSD bites... it's already getting hard to find insurance that will cover your property if you own a GSD as it is. as many are listing them as a viscious dog.  so let's see your total number of informative posts on this thread (THAT ARE FACTUAL) is zero.nun.nada.

so now what's next? let me guess. you're going to go to the last vestige of the weak minded on these boards when they can't win the discussion with someone more intelligent than themselves. trying to point out spelling errors? well let me save you the time. i type very fast and multi task while doing it( i know you don't get to see many people that can do that in the backwoods)  so now doubt you will find some, but i'm not going to waste time w/spell check for these threads.

P/S: i'm sorry some of my posts are so long for you. i'm sure your lips must be tired. (and yes that was snide)

As with any breed the people that cause most of the problems do not chat on a website about it. I suspect most people here are some of the more responsible owners. a few sorry people effect all of us no matter the breed.

 What i don't understand is that most people (i said mast not all) buy a bulldog because they want a bad-ass dog, they know it's a bad-ass dog because it has a bad-ass rep...so why complain about the rep of the breed if that is the reason you buy the freakin dog? I wanted a GSD because i wanted a dog that would just by IMAGE would scare a stranger/bad guy away from my yard, they see GSD and they automatically think "mean dog,gonna eat me if i go in the yard" who cares if i know my dog is a sweetheart, i don't want them to know, i want them to think different, so im not gonna complain when they DO!

And i also think that even though its sounds like everyone is complaing about the breed itself, i think the heart of the complaint is about the ABUSE of the breed,i don't mean physical abuse,  to many people are using the bad-ass rep in a bad way, but it is the majority of the owners that makes their dog out to be bad-ass then turn around and complain "oh, they think my doggie's a big meanie", sorry guys, your doin it to yourself. and if your not one of these people then i was not refering to you, so don't come back bitching at me, who you should be bitching at is your friends and others who own pitbulls, about trying so hard to impress everyone with their bad-ass dog..

~julie~