Are Titles Necessary Before Breeding? - Page 9

LOL Rellek

Relleck, thanks for your contribution. I'll proof my posts better.

Echo, if you are on your way to doing it right, then quit breeding until you have it together. You're putting the cart before the horse.

As is my choice to do so, many these days do assemble the Cart before the horse as to collect the horse first will cost you time, effort, funds, and feeds while you still need to assemble the cart. Don't worry I put into my dogs much more than I receive to answer that ever lingering question, Who does make money at this ?? I don't know, I know it ain't me. I think the crackhead down the road that breeds about 10 litters a year is making a good profit as the pups all die and idiots go back for more. pay another 100. bucks for another dying dog. Now there is someone who needs a good talking to spook, This guys dogs run from everyone, pups scream when you pick them up, he lets them get out and get hit on the road of course they don't die so then I get called out, have to round up his screaming pups, and barking running females, Then he does not want to put money into them so he won't come pay the 25. to get them out of the shelter and because they are so freaked out I have only been able to place one of the dogs I have had to remove from the roadway into a home. The rest well you know the story. Now that guy needs you all over him. But you did answer the question, Thank You.

Another deflection. It's great that you can point out someone who does an even worse job than you, but that wasn't the point. There are puppy mills all over that do worse than the worst breeder on this sight. The difference is, they don't try to tell anyone any different. (That would be great in one of your advertisements, "We are far better than the Puppy Mill down the street.") If it walks like a duck..... No matter how much deflection, convoluted threads or name calling, the facts don't change. You'll always find people to buy any quality of GSD, but why kid yourself and tell everyone you're improving the breed.

I don't beleive I am kidding myself, Just because you feel that I am doing nothing to improve the breed, does not mean that I feel that way, Does not mean that my training directors feel that way, does not mean that my buyers feel that way. Maybe there are one or two folks who feel I am doing something right, Maybe there are many many more, You are one person who feels I am a detrement, I am sorry for that, Honestly if you met the dogs I speak so highly of and saw for yourself, Maybe then you would get it, However I doubt you will put that much energy into proving your case.''BTW any pictures of your dog that your training yet ? I mean come on, I've been keeping this civil have not called you any names, and you wanna get snotty, yet again !! If you want to keep this a civil conversation fine, However go the child side of name calling and labeling, And I'll call you on it so that you can go hide for weeks and weeks again. What's the dogs name ? Where are the photos ? Trial Results ? Come on now, Your so wonderful, Prove your case !

although I've got your pattern and quite expect something like... I am not going to justify your stupid questions about my dog with answers blah blah blah, I am not gonna let you hide your insufficiencey's by asking me about blah blah blah, something to that effect.

Echo, Can you tell us what you have done to improve the breed? Maybe you can give us an idea here. How about giving us a layout of your plans for your dogs other than producing puppies. That might stop all this bickering if you could satisfy the questions being asked of you and I would have asked you this if I considered purchasing a pup from you. I didn't see anything other than the BH and that's a pretty good start. Other than that just the information on the litter(s) you have sold or in the process of selling. I think that's what everyone else sees only too. Sell yourself to us, you must have a attainable goal that you would be proud to share with us? Hope everyone has a good weekend! Birdy...

Echo, I agree there has been no name calling and I don't question your love for your dogs. I do question your reasons for breeding. We have plenty of GSDs in rescue centers for people who want pet quality dogs. Additionally, I question the advertising you do. Most people will look at your sight and realize what you are selling. The problem is the newby who is looking for his first quality dog. I think, in your heart, you feel that you have something special to offer, but it is mediocre at best. Take that as an insult if you must, but it is just my honest assessment of what you are doing with your present program. I'm not a breeder, only a trainer. I have never said how good/great I am or that I have all the answers. I pay good money for a certain quality of dog and then I train and show it. PERIOD. My other qualification is that I truely care about the future of the GSD.

Are Titles necessary before breeding ( 100% YES YES YES ( THIS IS WHY WE HAVE A BREED STANDARDS !