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by Jehannum on 26 July 2007 - 00:07

I just re-read the original post more carefully, and the behavior shown toward Agar is f'n pitiful.

This person talks about her experience in general and non-specific terms- respectfullu and you go pasting emails and posting videos?

Pathetic, immature, and disgusting behavior.

I wouldnt send you to buy my dog food....

Shame on you!


AgarPhranicniStraze1

by AgarPhranicniStraze1 on 26 July 2007 - 01:07

Jehannum-  Whoo hoo my hats off to you for getting the gist of why we all got so irrate.  I never meant the thread (which was the best one in a long time) to get hijacked by childish, idiotic brainwashed, evil individuals.  But it's all good; I just considered the source and called it a day.  I figured any reasonable perso would see through to what was really happening and I agree with you I wouldn't let them go buy my dog food either or scoop m,y dogs shit for that matter.  I was pissed off the most over posting the videos without my knowledge or consent but that'll teach me to allow people I don't know video tape my dog and I.  I tend to be too trusting and that now is gonna change.


by flipfinish on 26 July 2007 - 01:07

Agar,

I am confused. I didnt read the posts all the way earlier cause I was at work and didnt have time. Can you (or someone) explain to me what was unfair about those videos? I am not taking sides, I dont know any of you, but looked to me like Agar (pretty boy by the way) has some "sleeve happy" issues. The video is pretty conclusive, but you maintain when it is "for real" he is ready to go? What was different about the scenario where he did well? Can you provide a contrasting video? I have the reverse problem with my dog, I am always asked to leave clubs because he is show line and has low prey drive, but has been trained for real and the helpers dont like that, he keys in on the man. My boy has been tested in a similar way and would go nuts to get away from someone holding him to get at anyone who tried to touch me like that (first video). Secondly, when the helper slips the sleeve,he outs without being told and keys back in on the man. My boy was trained that way, always in defense, but it worked for what I wanted. I guess I should also say he lives in the house with me and my 4 kids (2.5, 3.5, 11, and 14) and has never shown aggression toward any of them. So are you saying your dog does this but just not on those videos?

My post wasnt about real vs. not real protection, but since we got off on that, I thought I would ask. 


by KeepzItReal on 26 July 2007 - 01:07

YOU FOOLS  HAD BETTER STOP LETTING TIM HELSER MAKE A FOOL OUT OF YOU. WHY DID YOU GO TO THAT IDIOT FOR TRAINING IN THE FIRST PLACE???

AGAR YOU SHOULD HAVE GOT THAT PISTOL FAKE OR NOT AND BEAT THE PISS OUTTA HIM WITH IT

CANNOT BELIEVE THIS CLOWN IS STILL TRYING TO ASSOCIATE HIMSELF WITH DOGS.


AgarPhranicniStraze1

by AgarPhranicniStraze1 on 26 July 2007 - 02:07

keepzitreal-  I really had no idea what I was getting myself into.  I was invited out to his club, which by the way has no specific location just whatever park is available.  Anyhow I gotta agree with you on what I should have done, but now knowing what I know I should have taken the pistol and beat myself with it for letting myself get sucked in.  It won't ever ever ever happen again.  From now on I'm asking about everyone and anyone BEFORE I waste my time dealing with people.  I tend to trust much of what I read from a lot of people on here because lets face it when the majority agrees then they all can't be wrong.  BTW- I liked the pic you posted I needed a good laugh after today.


by p59teitel on 26 July 2007 - 04:07

I can't believe those videos were posted to youtube.  Let's revisit the facts: a woman comes to your club, informs the members that she has a specific ongoing threat to her safety, and explains that she bought the dog specifically to deal with that threat.  You take videos showing that there was a good possibility that the dog might NOT defend against that threat, and subsequently post them with absolutely zero authorization to do so on a website visited by tens of millions of people every day.

Now I'm a lawyer, but I don't think you have to be one to see the inherent danger in doing something that idiotic.  But as a lawyer, I will tell you this: if Agar were my client and the specific threat she fears did manifest itself because of those videos, you'd be the second named Defendant in the lawsuit caption, and I'd make it my life's mission to see to it that you finished out your days living in a refrigerator box under a fuckin' bridge. 


PowerHaus

by PowerHaus on 26 July 2007 - 04:07

Wow!!!  P59!  I like a strong man!  Whoooo I am all hot and bothered!  Will you marry me?

Vickie

www.PowerHausKennels.com

 


AgarPhranicniStraze1

by AgarPhranicniStraze1 on 26 July 2007 - 04:07

p59teitel-  you're my hero!  And btw, YOU'RE HIRED! lol  And if the person that was a danger to me wasn't already in jail right this minute for shooting up our cars, house and stalking then it would very well be possible those videos could have added to an already bad bad bad situation.  These people knew the situation and either a. weren't smart enough to think it would be a bad idea to put me on Youtube considering my circumstances or b. they didn't give a shit cause they had their own mission in mind.  Either way they obviously weren't too concerned with my safety and I appreciate you shedding the LEGAL aspect on the reprocussions that could have taken place do to their irresponsible, juvenille and disrespectful actions.


by p59teitel on 26 July 2007 - 05:07

powerhaus, thanks for the offer, but I've been under the command of the same alpha bitch for the last twenty years.  :)

And Agar, given that there are only seven videos on youtube from "SPDK9" and FIVE of them are of your dog, I think the second possibility certainly applies, but not necessarily to the exclusion of the first.

Seriously, though, you need to get those videos off of there ASAP: there's no telling what sort of internet access your nemesis might be able to obtain in the prison library.  Hopefully some common sense will prevail here without any further effort on your part.   


AgarPhranicniStraze1

by AgarPhranicniStraze1 on 26 July 2007 - 05:07

p59teitel- How do I get them off of Youtube?  I already publicly made that request on the other thread but obviously my request must have gotten stuck in the suggestion box. lol  Can you help get them off?






 


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