Pit Bull family pet Mauls 4 year old in Texas - Page 7

for the ALL-KNOWING YELLOW ROSE: you are wrong. i knew this. but  just to make sure i called to verify that things hadn't changed since i last shipped.  i stopped checking after the first 2 since i saw no point in calling any others. here are the list of the 2 i called along with the phone #'s in case you don't want to take my words for it. ohh and by the way the representitives said there was no age restrictions either.

DELTA -  1-888-736-3738

UNITED - 1-800-722-5243

the old saying is true "don't believe anything you read and only half of what you see." that's one thing about these boards people seem to pass on more bad info. than good.

If you want to know what the GSD was bred for read von Stepanitz' book or the breed standard as to what the temperament should be.  Are there aggressive GSDs? Yes there sure are, but that was not the point of the breed.  As to your second question on segregation or genocide, why don't you ask the mother of that child what she thinks about that?  I also asked a question in my post that you, in your hysteria, failed to answer, so I am still wondering. Insulted ?  Give me a break, that is just laughable.

Sorry about the double post, server glitches sometimes.

proud poppa just read your post. the gsd was breed for herding sheep. period. how many sheep do you own? i don't either, but i still find pleasure in the breed. and as having owned and bred the APBT for over 15 yrs. with them growing up with my children and having a kennel as full of as many APBT's as some of the gsd kennel's as well as never having a single incident i can say they are a great breed. you ask "what need do they fulfill that could not be met as well if not better by another breed". the same could be asked of the gsd. but why should it have to be????????? why should responsible owners have to give up their breed of choice because of the bad owners?????  why should all those kennels that show and work their world class APBT's have to get rid of the animals and try something else? you need to look up the breed characteristics listed by the UKC and the ADBA and you will see how the breed is supposed to be. or the staff's in the AKC.  and as for them being bred for aggression you are right. they were originally bred for animal aggression and culled if any people aggression was found. unfortunately the backyard breeders have stopped the later part just as those with the shepherds have done. the point you don't understand is that animal aggression in no way equates to people aggresion. i remember not that long ago how the "GSD WAS SUPPOSED TO BE UNRELIABLE.  would turn on it's owner maul little children, they were a time bomb just waiting to go off, i often heard yeah he's fine now but just wait he'll turn on you. is that true? those things did happen. but were they the ones that were bred to the higher standard? were they the ones kept by knowledgable , caring owners? NO. same is the case here. do you recall the original LITTLE RASCALS? pete the pup was a fine example of what an APBT should be. bred by john p. colby. it was said that he loved those kids, and they were with him daily with not one incident. dogs like that are why good people own the breed.  do some reserch as to what breed is the most responsible for deaths in the US. you'll be surprised to find that it's a german breed. no, not the GSD.

OK let's look at it this way. if the APBT is killed totally off (for that matter let's get rid of all breeds that were bred for fighting) then we're sure to get them out of the hand of the bad owners (as well as the good) then will there be no more maulings? no more bites? no more deaths? NOOOO. because these things have happened with many breeds. now what will happen? those same irrisponsible owners will just stop owning dogs right? NO. they'll just move to the next breed. perhaps the GSD (god forbid) but what if they did? i'll tell you. the backyard breeders, the bad charicteristics will be over looked. more sharp dogs. more GSD bites, maulings, deaths. now let's kill off the GSD it's become an uncontrolable killer.  then we'll again here that old saying "yeah he's fine now but just wait he'll turn on you."

by all means destroy the ones that commit these awful acts. punish the bad owner. but kill every dog because of a few? doesn't make any sense.

by the way if we destroyed all the "fighting breeds" say good-bye to the sharpei, the tosa,the presa canaro, the fila, the rodesian ridge back............ heck why stop there? let's just outlaw and destroy all dogs powerfull enough to kill a human. hhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm, wonder if i can get a yorkie to hit a sleeve?????????

Here's what Wikipedia has to say about the origins of these dogs:

 Specifically, these dogs accompanied farmers into the fields to assist with bringing bulls in for breeding, castration, or slaughter. The dogs, known generally as bulldogs, protected the farmer by subduing the bull if it attempted to gore him. Typically a dog would do this by biting the bull on the nose and holding on until the bull submitted. Bulldogs were bred to have powerful, muscular bodies and the resolve to hold onto a violently struggling bull despite injury. These traits permitted the development and rise of the bloody sports of bull-baiting and bear-baiting. In Elizabethan England, these spectacles were popular forms of entertainment. However, in 1835, bull-baiting and bear-baiting were abolished by Parliament as cruel, and the custom died out over the following years. [Bolding mine]

Quite different from the origins of the Shepherd, no? Like I said, breeding will out. Angela, you seem to have a closed mind on this subject, and don't want to hear anything negative about your beloved breed. Yet, you yourself admit that pits have a higher than average prey drive. Prey is typically small and fast-moving. Unfortunately, a small child falls into that category, too.