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ShepherdWoman - When connotating a dog a champion it has has been traditional to use U-Ch to signify a UKC Championship. If you look at the titles one can garner in the UKC, they traditionally have a U in front of them and the titles go in front on the name - UCD, UWP, etc. It is particularly important to put a "U" in front of the Ch for a UKC Championship as most other registeries list their CH titles in front of the name and the working titles after the name. If you have a dog that is an AKC and a CKC CH than you would put Am/Can Ch in front of the name. This site gives some pretty good examples to follow: http://www.istari.info/win1.html As others have said, be proud of the title that your dog got. He got a U-Ch and it should be listed as such. If/when he gets an AKC/CKC Ch than you can list those as well. However, as it stands as listed, it gives the appearance that he is an AKC champion which means something different than a UKC Ch. I am not saying an AKC Championship is better than a UKC championship or vice versa - just that there are different requirements to attain the title and different standards upon which a dog is judged. My one male has several UKC titles and I am proud of them and I put the U in front of them. That way people do not get the mis-impression that there were titles from other registries.

Psycht you're right, Shepherd woman need to put an U in front of her dog Ch title. if she so proud of him, why she hide it, and that is why it create many problem on this forum

wow, now that's interesting. I would have assumed that judgmental statements like GSDsportdog's were the problem with this forum. I believe that shepherdwoman is INDEED proud of chaos. She regularly puffs around ( just kidding ) about "her boy" and shows pictures and gives us updates on show results. So yes, indeed she IS proud of her dog and I do not believe she has ever HIDDEN behind anything. Do you know her personally? And do YOU put a distinction on whether you title your dog under and SV judge or a US judge? Your backbiting nitpicking is the problem on this forum.

Wow, von symphoni, thanks : - } And you're right, I am very proud of my boy and his accomplishments being a long coat! And I'm 100% behind your last comment too!

Shepherd Woman We all know that you proud of you boy Chao, but you still need to put a U in front of his title, so every body can rest in peace.

In regards to Von Symphoni's comment - There is no need to specify where the judge comes from. That is not a title per se as we are discussing here. Simply put a UKC champion is listed as a U-CH, and in the US, a CH is an AKC CH. However, if a CH title was obtained in europe prior to coming to the US than that title should appropriately signify the country of origin. The point is accuracy in representation of one's dog. I personally don't see what the big hang up is with putting the U in front of the CH. Getting a UKC championship is entirely different than getting an AKC CH.

Let them keep their panties in their crotches, lol. Gives them something to bitch about!

Shepherd Woman - Since it seems that you lack the maturity to have an adult discussion without resorting to crude comments and seem to have the naivete that is quite often found in those new to the world of dog shows/trials/preservation of breed type, I will forebear on making comments to you beyond this message. There are plenty of individuals on this board that I have observed to be beyond such childish and immature behavior such as the sort that you exhibit when anyone disagrees with you. We all love our dogs and think the world of them. The difference between experience and inexperience is accepting that love and personal belief that one's dog is beautiful/special must be set aside when evaluating a dog's potential to be an asset to the breed. Misrepresenting your dog on internationally visited boards such as this does not seem to benefit the breed. It is your reputation that you are affecting with your comments and inability to understand the point that others have made in regards to this issue and, at the end of the day, one's reputation in the dog world can make or break you later down the road.

I had an SV judge tell me about a V rating that he put on a female that was a coat. They (in his words) 'striped the hell out of her'. I thought that was an interesting thing for a judge to talk about. It was in the context of our TD asking him if a dog in our club was a coat or not. His response was that it was a stock coat, and to just pull the hair around the ears and show it. I was also at a UKC show once where the judge was judging a 2 shepherd class. He gave one dog first place and the other dog 6th place. He said the dog had visable faults and wouldnt have done better than 6th in a full class, so 6th he got. I personally found it kind of funny. How does one explain their dog getting 6th in a 2 dog class? lol. Now to the other dog mentioned here, I have seen him in person. I went to the UKC show where Shepherd Womans dog was presented in order to collect some entry forms, registration info, etc. He was in full coat. Having been a groomer for 6 years, I would be one of the first to notice trim lines or anything of the sort. Nothing like that was evident. He won his class and compared to the overangulated crap that was in the ring, I would have been surprised had he not won. Correct form should override coat when the differance is as extreme as what I saw. Right or wrong, its how I feel. Now I dont know her and I didnt speak to her, I left before the class was even over, but I saw what I saw. I thought that UKC was more about getting he average pet owner into showing/obedience, etc. Thats how I have always taken it. I wouldnt expect Mr Joe Neighbor to have an AKC champion or a V rated dog, so I wouldnt fault him for showing what he does have and having fun.

artillery, thanks so much. Would have been great to meet someone from the database. You should have stuck around to talk after it was done. I wasn't showing Chaos, a friend was. Stiff neck and head ache got me that morning. She did fabulous showing him though. He looked awesome out there as far as I'm concerned. What did you think?