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I think he was a definately in a differant league than the other dogs in the ring. Of course, I do know and like his sire, so there you have it.

And Psycht I was brought up to treat people as they treat me. I am VERY nice to people who are nice to me. Someone treats me like shit, they get treated the same way in return! That's life. If they talk to me respectfully they will get the same back. From what I've seen on this forum, a lot of people jump to conclusions and don't think before they type.

Psycht, Thank you for telling it like it is and with great tact and diplomacy. artillery, Yes, UKC appears to be aimed at the "average pet owner"--sorta like AKC fun matches--fun places to learn and have fun with one's dogs. While you carry the credentials of having been a groomer, let me tell you that a longcoat can be trimmed (whatever you wish to call it) without leaving any telltale "trim lines". I know becuse I have done it successfully. Yes, sad to say, my trimmed longcoat (whom I loved very much) was awarded AKC points by defeating dogs with normal coats. However, I would hardly describe my own female's achievements as "awesome"--just "lucky", IMO. The fact that she had superior conformation doesn't make it right. A honest judge who respects the breed standard can easily withhold awards--by not awarding any first places or championship points. As for SV judges, let me say that some of them have remarkable skills. After a regional show/breed survey in my city about 3 years ago, I saw a "talented" SV körmeister demonstrate how to remove kinks/curls from the tails of several GSD's. After he firmly yanked on the tails, lo and behold, the tails fell into nice relaxed sabers. No one will be the wiser until the next generation!! LOL

Awww thanks artillery : - } I'm fond of his sire too, lol

"As for SV judges, let me say that some of them have remarkable skills. After a regional show/breed survey in my city about 3 years ago, I saw a "talented" SV körmeister demonstrate how to remove kinks/curls from the tails of several GSD's. After he firmly yanked on the tails, lo and behold, the tails fell into nice relaxed sabers. No one will be the wiser until the next generation!! LOL" Louise, its funny that you mention that. I saw that done to a dog at NASS and was wondering what the he** they were doing! I would love to see photos of your trimmed dog, just for my own education (like I said, ive never seen one that I couldnt see marks of the trimming, but I dont doubt that it can be done). I can say that Chaos wasnt trimmed though. If he was, it was a piss poor job. lol. Isnt it funny how the judges know the best ways to cheat with the least evident methods? lol.

Damn artillery, I wish you had stuck around after the show : - }

artillery, The black and white photo posted earlier in this thread is of my trimmed longcoat Andrea's Annelore UDT.

Dave, I've owned and bred Malamute since 1970 and yes, there are longcoats in that breed. We call them woolies. Some show and breed them, but that doesn't mean that coat is correct for the breed. The Eskimos killed them because they died on the trail. They formed ice balls in their coats, inside their ears and between their pads, were subject to frostbite and often froze fast to the ground during an ice storm. Can you imagine what happened when they stood up? The Malamute standard calls for a thick oily undercoat and harsh guardhairs that stand out from the body. The exact wording is - "never long and soft". If you notice I've never said a long coat can't survive a German winter, I've said a dog with a long, SOFT coat cannot survive. It snows in Germany and they have ice storms there. You can never forget why the GSD was developed, to tend sheep in Germany during all seasons. One reason a white dog is faulted is because a shepherd can't see it in the snow. A dog with a long, soft coat will not make it without human intervention. When you have the time, go to your local library and take out some books about the expeditions to Antarctica and the Northpole. Some have a lot of pictures of the dogs, I guarantee you that you will not see one dog with a long, flat, soft coat.

I've been witness to (2) seperate LSC dogs, at (2) seperate dog shows...being excused from the ring because of their "coats"...even though it was apparent that the owners did their best to "disguise" their appearance....a little embarrasing for the owners, I must say.

Thanks Blitzen. Yes that makes much more sense. I guess I am defensive. My Long stock coat has coarse hair on his back etc. His only real difference is a single tuft of hair in each ear. Plus the extra hair on the back of his ears. Seems like no big deal to me. His hair around his neck is soft but the rest coarse. I am going scootering with some huskies and Malamutes tomorrow. Should be fun. They are going to lend me the equipment so I can try it out without spending a ton on a scooter and harness. Different subject I know but thought I would share. It should be good for strengthening the legs especially the back ones.