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allaboutthedawgs

by allaboutthedawgs on 04 February 2008 - 16:02

Probably the reason no one considered that he was trained to do this (bark and warn anyone who comes into a room, of his own accord) in Germany is because there would be no likelihood of him being trained for this. 

The dog is supposed to protect his family, yes, but in an appropriate way. This is obviously not appropriate in that the dog is threatening people whom YOU have allowed into your home. After you've okay'ed it HE shouldn't be revoking their right to be there.  That is way, way too much responsibility for a dog. And the fact that he's aggressive (lunging) to an invited guest and non aggressive to two drunks during the night proves it.

I recall the other dog you said, on a previous thread, is a service dog being threatening on a public bus, or somewherer thread? You rebuffed people then for saying a Service Dog in particular should never be aggressive. You're excuse for that dog was because it was a man with a hat in a big coat?? At some point you will find it necessary to quit making excuses for these dogs and start honestly evaluating their stability.


mnm

by mnm on 04 February 2008 - 16:02

Are you CRAZY!!!!    This is exactly what gives our breed a bad reputation.  You are being sooooo irresponsible, along with some of you who are encouraging this.   This is a behavioural issue with your dog and you have no control over him.  This dog is a time bomb waiting to explode...doesn't matter how much you think he is a good dog or not.  Just how are you going to feel when this dog attacks someone, possibly even a child and does serious damage or even kills someone....because you thought that this is appropriate behaviour.  Not to mention, then the dog will be destroyed, you will get sued and possibly loose everything...maybe even your daughter for putting her in such a dangerous situation.  Is this what you really want?  Because it is what you are headed for.

Marsha Seck


by ilovemygsdnenz on 04 February 2008 - 16:02

about my puppy, i said she barked on the bus. woof woof. no lunging, hackles up or anything. she rarely barks in the house. if anything she thinks she is supposed to sit on company's laps so she is crated. when i don't think she has not had enough mental stimulation through exercise and i know she will be hyper vigilant, i simply leave her home. training with her has been going smoothly with regular exercise. i have had her exposed to more people in more places since then and she has done very well. my doctor could not believe she was so well-behaved when she was 10 months old at my last appointment.

the incident i mentioned to start with, i did not okay that person being here. that was my boyfriend. i wasn't in the room. it's my boyfriend's friends he is forgetting, not mine. this dog does not listen to anyone except me. if i personally get up myself and answer the door, he is fine. if my friend leaves the room and comes back in, talking before entering the room, he is fine. what he does not like is someone just walking in. i don't answer the door for my boyfriend's friends. i don't like them coming over. so they usually just walk in.


shasta

by shasta on 04 February 2008 - 17:02

 ok, why on earth do I spend my time answering questions here I don't know. Usually a person asks a question, then gets responses, then argues with the responses or justifies their actions or the actions of their dogs. It's truly a waste of time to answer any questions here. The only reason I even ATTEMPT is usually for someone who MIGHT read the post (not usually the first poster) and want some info from it. but it does drive me nuts the constant justifications for bad behavior in peoples dogs. I consider myself a fairly reasonable person, I try to take in all the facts before jumping in etc. The only time I really start to get riled up is when someone is doing something that will harm my breed. In this case, you ARE doing something that will eventually harm my breed, so I have to speak up. It does not matter if you said they could be there or not, it matters that the dog was reacting to a non threat, and you're stressing your poor dog out making him watch over you instead of stepping up and doing that yourself. 


sueincc

by sueincc on 04 February 2008 - 17:02

You can't change your original post and playing down or amending the story will not change the inevitability of your dog being put to sleep or hurting someone inapropriately because you refuse to acknowledge there is a problem with your dog, or worse yet, take some peverse pleasure in his poor behaviour.  sad, sad, sad.


allaboutthedawgs

by allaboutthedawgs on 04 February 2008 - 17:02

Wow! What a frustrating person. You say now it was a one time woof woof on the bus and the young dog rarely barks in the house.  Yet, on your posts of 11DEC07 you referred REPEATEDLY to numerous episodes and your phrasing also referred to plural episodes. You also say how embarassed you are when she growls or barks. Because you KNOW it's unacceptable.

Yet you continue to blame everyone and everything except the dog, it's handler and it's training.  And yet you see yourself as qualified to judge whether this dog is breedworthy and have every intention of breeding her.  You should get this dog fixed. Train the male AND this one with the input of a REAL trainor so you will UNDERSTAND what is acceptable and unacceptable behavior in a dog.

 


by preciousrose on 04 February 2008 - 18:02

wow can u people plaese learn how to read the right way. all u guys can see is the bad things in nenz but stop and read it from the point that he is really a good boy and once he gets to know u he is really a loving dog. im best friends with ilovemygsdnenz and i babysat nenz alot and he was a good boy. anyone ever stop to think that he moved from a neighbor hood that was safe to a neighbor hood that is not safe to why he is trying to pertect his family?? try being a dog and seiing all the diffrent things from b 4 to now im sure u would react the same way 2. go from a good neighbor hood to a neighbor hood that has guns going off 24/7 and sirens all the time well thats enuff to make any dog pertective. just like im pertective of my friends when people start talking crap when they dont really know her or her dog well enuff to even really know whats going on. is it really that hard to ask her a question about her dog b 4 u start judging her or her dog??? i guess so!!! if u really got to know her and nenz u would really see how sweet and innicent nenz really is!!!!


by hodie on 04 February 2008 - 18:02

The facts of this particular situation probably relate to the person getting a dog when she knows NOTHING about dogs, temperament, training or socialization. She knows nothing about what the dog did or did not do in Germany, and nothing about what or whether the dog was trained in Germany and, if so, how to deal with the dog. SOME of you are finally reading between the lines. This person should NOT own a dog, let alone a GSD. 

 People like this have dogs, come here, ask stupid questions which, by the nature of the question should lead ANYONE with a BRAIN to realize that the person has NO CLUE. Then, only after a few people come on and tell it like it is, we begin to get a better picture of what is going on. There is NO EXCUSE for a dog to act as it is, except it has someone for an owner who does not know their .... from a hole in the ground.

Every single person on this site who considers themselves knowledgeable about temperament, training, socialization and proper behavior of a dog living in a society should be here telling it like it is. This behavior should be stopped and now and this will take someone who knows what they are doing to do it, and it might be too late. The dog may or may not be sharp. The dog may or may not be a good dog. We cannot know that. But all of us who know about dogs SHOULD recognize this behavior for what it is, and also recognize that the poster does not know what she is doing. Her allowing this behavior is just one more reason why the breed is in such trouble. Do not sugar coat it. Some people should not have children, and some sure as hell should not have dogs, especially GSDs.

I for one do not have time to go back and read all her former posts. Some of you have and that is good. In the meantime people, read between the lines......There is a huge problem here and I guarantee you, it will be the poor dog who will pay for it someday with his life because he was not sold to an owner with an ounce of common sense.

Anyone who condones what is going on here is also part of the problem.


allaboutthedawgs

by allaboutthedawgs on 04 February 2008 - 18:02

We can only go by what she has said. This is the only way we can know her. She presents her dog one way then changes it when she doesn't get the answer she wants. Which is that the dog makes up his own mind who can enter a room and when they can do it and what protocols they need to follow in order to do it.  If he doesn't feel safe it's a combination owner/temperament issue. I understand wanting to stand up for your friend but no amount of loyalty is going to change the danger of the situation.

I'll never understand why a person would want to be ignorant of danger. But it's all about choices. Good luck with this one, which keeps recurring and being denied.


by preciousrose on 04 February 2008 - 18:02

CAN PEOPLE GET THE HINT THAT THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH NENZS BEHAVIOR!!! ALL ILOVEMYGSDNENZ WAS DOING IS ASKING A QUESTION THAT LED UP TO ALL OF THIS CRAP THAT EVERYONE IS JUDGING NENZ. YOU GUYS EVER THIINK THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH NENZ. OH AND BY THE WAY ILOVEMYGSDNENZ IS THE BEST DOG TRAINER THAT I HAVE EVER MET. IF SHE SEES HER DOGS DOING SOMETHING SHE WILL STOP THEM BUT IF SHE FEELS LIKE THEY R DOING SOMETING RIGHT THEN SHE WILL LET THEM. ABOUT A MONTH AGO OR SO SHE HAD 2 DRUNKS WALK INTO HER APARTMENT AND NENZ SAT THERE AND BARKED AT THEM AND SENCE THAT INCIDENT HE HAS STARTED TO ACT THIS WAY. SO I DONT SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH HIS BEHAVIOR. LETS SAY HER B/FS FRIEND LEFT OUT THE BACK DOOR THEN A STRANGER CAME BACK IN INSTEAD OF HER B/FS FRIEND AND HE HAD A GUN OR SOMETHING ELSE REALLY BAD THEN U WOULD B HAPPY TO KNOW U HAVE A DOG WHO PERTECTS U. SO LIKE I SAID B 4 STOP AND READ IT THE RIGHT WAY AND FROM ANOTHER POINT OF VIEW!!!!






 


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