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Hodie, we posted at same time or else I wouldn't have written the same thing twice.

OOOHH! NOW I get it. You want the answer you want to hear. Why didn't you just say so?

Gee!! That's great!!!   What a GOOD DOG!  You should really talk your friend into breeding. The whole breed would be vastly improved if there were TONS more dogs just like this one. I sure hope it's the new trend for all GSD's to be the ultimate boss of the home.  Especially the ones who have been abused in the past and feel insecure.  I am SO freaking impressed.

allaboutthedowgs,

You get it clearly and have tried to help. A few others here get it. Sadly, the original poster and some others don't get it. I am done wasting my time. Reminds me of the phone calls I get almost weekly from people who have no clue who have allowed their dog to behave this way and then the dog gets into trouble and they want to give the dog up (almost always asking me if I can place the dog with a police department....geez). Makes me livid.

Thanks for trying to bring some sanity along with Sueincc, Shasta and others....unfortunately, it is lost on an owner who is incapable of understanding and others who give poor advice.

think whatever u want to think about nenz but i know how much of a GOOD BOY he really is. how do we really know wheather or not nenz was not abused b 4 in his life?? he has only been in his home where he is at not for almost 2 years now so really everyone how do we really know wheather or not nenz was ever abused?? lets just say b 4 ilovemygsdnenz no one wanted nenz and my friend drove 6 hours to go get him and on the drive up to get him she was not for sure if she was going to take him or not but the point is she drove for 6 hours not knowing if she was going to take him or not. nenz is a rretired show dog. the only reason no one wanted him is b cuz he has hip displatia what we r now finding out is not true but one thing is for sure my friend has a big heart to take nenz in knowing that he has problems. nenz loves my friend right back as much as she loves him. she must b doing something right for him to love her and want to make her and her daughter safe. he is only trained to listen to her voice so yeah if she is in another room and nenz sees someone as a treat then yeah his natrual instinck is to pertect his family. trust me i use to live in the naighbor hood she lives in now and it is the worst part of town anyone could live in so i would think it is good for him to pertect. all u guys r saying is that gsds r vissious dogs well if they were so vissious then why do police use them???

ok, if everybody is done bashing, why dont you give this persone some suggestions as to what she should do.

Your dog is probably feeding off of your energy about your BFs friends. If you dislike them, and would rather them not be there, nenz picks up on that. so i would say his reaction is not un normal. BUT, wether he or you like those friends or not, you have to tell nenz when enough is enough. If he only listens to you, i would have him with you. when youre napping, close the door so he is with you. Dogs hearing is much better then ours, and he would know if there was noise that does not belong there, not part of his usual enviroment. You need to take precautions so that no one that doesnt deserve it, gets bit. Petting him to calm him down is absolutely the wrong thing to do. if anything, some quick obedience routines to remind him of who is in charge might work, it may not. it much depends on your dog.

Just because nenz is exhibiting these behaviors does not mean he is a bad dog. There are plenty of people whom i have worked with just dont know what the right thing to do in a given situation is. That is where professional help is needed. It is advisable in your situation to seek it. Just be wary of the quacks who call themselves dog trainers. Check credentials, check references. See some of the work that he has done, if possible.

A German Shepherd is not supposed to be reactive, but should evaluate a situation before making a decision wether it be friend or foe.

Just my 2 cents

iluvmygsdnenz - you asked a question and described a number of nenz's behaviors. you got a number of responses. some of those are VERY GOOD! when you just hear criticism, it's worthless, BUT, you got alot of really good advice (constructive criticism) to go along with it. there are people who answered you who know what the hell they are talking about. i learn something just about everytime i read something they wrote. nobody said nenz was a bad dog. but, if you continue to allow his behavior, you're gonna end up with a dead dog. quit being defensive and find a good trainer who is also an evaluator. any dog needs to be trained, but with dogs who have the greater potential for damage to people, we HAVE to take the responsiblity to make sure they get the best training we can.  nobody here wants to read about another negative gsd story. nobody here wants to read about another dog put to death because he wasn't trained properly. it's all up to you, as his owner to take responsibility and listen to the really good advice you've gotten here. if you don't, anything bad that happens to that dog or to you or to a kid or anyone else is completely your fault.

Well for starters she probably should stop telling people a. he's NOT friendly and b. he bites.  Geez Louise are you friggin NUTTS lady???  I mean seriously are you looking to get your ass sued by someone looking to get paid by possibly eggin' your not so friendly dog that you just told them ahead of time will bite??

If your dog is not friendly or let's say "approachable" then you have no business taking him around people that he could potentially hurt.  Same goes with if you know he bites or have experienced any reason to believe he will bite.

 Do you feel that if you tell people you're dogs not friendly or he bites that makes him a bad ass??  Just help me understand your thinking or reasoning as to why you'd tell a perfect stranger these things?? 

When someone asks me if my dogs bites I jokingly respond by saying "well he DOES have teeth doesn't he?"  I don't broadcast to people that my dog is trained to bite; that's just plain stupidity because there's always some crack pot looking to either prove you wrong OR prove you right so he can sue you when your dog bites them.

I've learned some things in my journey...a "bad ass" dog, truly a "bad ass" dog does not need to put on a show, he's confident, stable and well balanced.  He knows who he is and what he can do.  He should be an approachable dog, sweet with kids but yet will do his job when duty calls for it.  No more no less.

You remind me of some ignorant people that come off the street and say "Is that one of those "attack dogs"? Or someone who says " I want an "attack trained dog".  Alrighty then....you go get yourself one of those "attack trained dogs" and let me know how that future law suit works out for ya.  Hopefully you will never be faced with that situation because it would be devastating to have your dog taken from you with no one to blame but yourself.

"LETS SAY HER B/FS FRIEND LEFT OUT THE BACK DOOR THEN A STRANGER CAME BACK IN INSTEAD OF HER B/FS FRIEND AND HE HAD A GUN OR SOMETHING ELSE REALLY BAD THEN U WOULD B HAPPY TO KNOW U HAVE A DOG WHO PERTECTS U."  (PRECIOUS ROSE)

I hate to break it to you but dogs aren't bullet proof.  If this bizarre little scenario actually plays out the end result is mostly likely one dead dog - then what?

 Folks,

It is not so much about the dog as the poster and her friend who don't know their ;;;;;;from a hole in the ground when it comes to dogs. And yes, like so many of the other ignorant and sometimes people who take pleasure in acting stupid, you cannot fix stupid.

Melba, sorry, but not only this time, but in the past people have given good advice to this person only to have it ignored. It becomes tiresome and disheartening that people here all too often do not want to learn from people here, but make excuses. Some of us get really tired of it.

hodie,

i completely understand, but have not read many of ILMDnenz's posts, so i dont know what is going on with that.

some people will never learn, no matter if the truth is dangled in their face or not.

please accept my apologies if i have offended anyone, was just trying to be helpful.