Breeder Won't Give Deposit Back - Page 5

BTW thecouch

Tell that breeder he/she should give you back your $200. It isn't a huge sum, but who can afford to give away $200 for nothing these days? $200. will about cover shipping for another puppy born anywhere in the continental United States. :)  To keep it would be remiss.... and stupid. Kinda reinds me of that "Socks" BS.

Good luck,

SS

I can see the OP's frustration and perhaps it's not really the $200 that has them so upset but just the way the breeder jerked them off on the deposit.  BUT as Don stated so eloquently once again most of us spent almost that much if not at least that much in our gas tanks this week JUST to go back n forth to work.  To take legal action on this wouldn't be worth your trouble.  You'd lose even more in the end when you total up your time off from work to file the case, then miss another day to show up for court, your gas back n forth both times....it's just best to say screw it I got beat, if the breeder needs it that bad then oh well, whatever....just be a little more wiser the next go round.

If it's any consulation, thecouch, I put down a deposit and waited 10 months for a puppy from my breeder, what did I get, THE BEST DAMN THING THAT EVER HAPPEND TO ME. She wasn't the color I wanted, and was from my second choice dam, but my god, how I love her now...might be something to think about.

No offense intended to anyone, but I just don't see why color is so important, not just in gsds, in any animal. Personally what I look for in a future addition to our animal family, is personality. Sorry this is off topic........my gray shorthair cat will be 8 this month and has outlasted a number of cats and dogs since she was born to a cat I originally rescued as stray kitten. When Ashes was born, I thought she was ugly compared to her beautiful gray tabby and gray tabby with white sisters. As the kittens grew, Ashes was the only one of the three who would snuggle with me all night. I found homes for her beautiful sisters and almost 8 years later my plain gray cat is the envy of my best friend, who was so determined to get a calico cat, that was all that mattered. Well she has a calico. Now she complains it isn't affectionate with her as my cat is with me and any company that visits long enough to be used as a cat cushion. I keep telling my friend personality is more important than looks. Sorry for going off topic, just my two cents.

The Colour does not make the Dog,. It seems you want a form of desgner dog, just because to you the colour looks pretty

What you should have done was to go to the kennel and taken a look at the Sable Long Coat, You may have fell for the Pup, Plus if you cannot find the time to even go and view the Pups before you take it,  Red & Black, Sable  or  even  Off  White        it tells me you have only one thought in your mind, and that is  to have a certain Coloured Dog, and that in its self is not the reason to have any Dog at all

No, i would not give you your deposit back if i was in the breeders position you could take me to court you still would not get  your moneyi regardless of the outcome i may go to jail for a month or two, but you would not get paid, Its a princible thing here, and a person has to stick to it

Steve

Take the breeder to small claims court. Include every expense incurred. You will win. Email me personally I will give you some free legal advice. A crime is a crime.

Excuse me for misspelling your name but it's comical that I just looked over my posts and I their are no spelling errors made by me other than that. Your posts on the other hand have a few misspelled words in them. Again you've opened your mouth and the stupidity runs out. Better go back and use spell check and you'll see who's made the mistakes. It isn't me.

Actually it is you that has ALL your information wrong. I've purchased from one kennel over a year ago now. Since then I have talked with a total of 2 others when I was looking for a Zidane pup. The first I had sent a deposit on a litter for pick male. Then less than a week later I saw she had an upcoming litter that I liked even better. I called and left a message stating that I was thinking about switching litters and to please give me a call. I also asked if she would want a different check and to send me the original back as she had not cashed it yet. She likes all the litter info. printed on the check so she remembers what check goes for what pup. She never called just an email stating that she TORE UP MY CHECK (NO CREDIT TO MY BANK) and took me off pick male.  Finally after many try's I got her on the phone and told her I said I'd like to switch to another upcoming litter if it was possible and that if it wasn't I never said take me off the original litter. She stated she was sorry for jumping to conclusions. She'd been under a lot of stress as her mom was in the hospital. Switching would not be an issue since I was the first that inquired about the new litter and she had someone interested in a male from my original litter. Unfortunately she continued to jump to conclusions as That night I posted on this board asking if anyone knew of any older dogs off Zidane for sale? A friend of mine was looking for an older male and has since found one from one of those that contacted me. Again I received an email, not a person to person call, but an email stating that "I GUESS YOU NO LONGER WANT A PUP FROM ME THAT IS FINE." At no time did I ever intend on not getting a pup from her. At that point I left her a message that she should get in touch with me and not assume anything. Later that night she calls and stated what she thought and again said she's under stress with her mom and now with her daughter. By this time I started getting a bad feeling about this deal and stated that I thought it best to forget the deal completely.

Still interested in a Zidane male I contacted the guy the previous breeder had obtained many of her females from since he had a nice looking breeding coming up. The guy stated that he had only one pup spoken for and that it was a female. I wanted a male and said I'd send out a deposit. The man stated that he only accepts 1 deposit per litter and he had already done that. So he would take my contact info and place me on a list and call back in order from said list when he knew how many males & females he had.  That night I posted on the board asking if there were any other breedings to Zidane available? I get a call from this guy asking what I am doing? He's going to be holding a pup for me. I told him to me NO DEPOSIT MEANS YOU AREN'T HOLDING ANYTHING FOR ME. Did he think I would just wait and hope he had enough males to get to my name on his list? I told him if he would let me send him a deposit I'd consider this a done deal and wouldn't continue looking. Again he stated that it's his policy not to take more than 1 deposit. I thanked him for his time and said if he had enough males and got to my name give me a call and if I had not found one by then I'd take a male from him.

That is the extent of my dealings with breeders here. So I had one breeder who's personal problems and jumping to conclusions without checking with me gave me reason for pause about a deal, and a second breeder that didn't take more than 1 deposit. So tell me where are all these breeders that wouldn't do business wit

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That is the extent of my dealings with breeders here. So I had one breeder who's personal problems and jumping to conclusions without checking with me gave me reason for pause about a deal, and a second breeder that didn't take more than 1 deposit. So tell me where are all these breeders that wouldn't do business with me?

Perhaps you are thinking of all though's that have contacted me about you and your pup dealings that have been less than satisfied and told me to steer clear of you because you are a nutter?

Again I just reread this post before sending, no misspellings. Perhaps you should go back and look at the misspellings in your posts. After the booze wares off. Better hit one of those AA meetings. Maybe then you will get your facts straight as well.

By the way SHELLEY you can't have it both ways. I just looked at one of your above posts where you state:

"Some customers are just trouble from the start, demanding the names of nearly every person who ever bought a dog from one's program,  wanting to contact perfectly happy  former customers with suspicions and pre-sale buyer's remorse"

I've seen you state many times that a new buyer should ask for a list of previous owners from a breeder to see how their dogs have worked out... Now your going to make it sound like that's unreasonable? Which advice do you want people to follow? I on the other hand wouldn't ask for such a list do to the fact that the breeder wouldn't include any disgruntled customers if there were any anyhow. I wonder if when contacted for a list of your previous customers you include any of the ones that have contacted me with horror stories of dealing with you?

Again Shelly YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.

Howdy,

I really did not want to contribute to this thread, and for sure not to personal vendettas beeing fought here. Gee, this is something !

Then I read the statemennt of Steve1 - with all due respect, if I were in in the shoes of "thecouch",and you wuld be the breeder in question, I would applaud when you start your time ! I dont know for sure how that works in the US, but if you are send to jail here in Germany for fraud and you are serving time, it does not mean, that with serving time, your debts are taken care of ! You still owe ! And I would make darn sure to hunt you down and get what you owe me ! But that would be just me.

1. Deposit on a pup with certain coat/colour

2. Breeder states, if he /she cannot provide certain coat/colour, Deposit is refunded.

3. Buyer is patient enough to wait out 3 litters/ attempts of breeder to produce what he/she promised.

4. Breeder offers total diffrent coulor, and now takes the declining of this offer as an excuse not to pay back deposit ?

I will admit Steve, not the colour makes the dog....... but you put a deposit on a workingline pup, now the breeder tells you, i can only give you a show line ...... will you fall for it ??

The car dealer sells you a BMW, when you come to pick up your car, he instead can only offer you a different modell of what you orderd - will you fall for that ?

Either way, this BS is giving me a headache ..... if peopel would just try to stay reasonable and stick to their word, thecouch would not have to go through this crap. I do feel for the couch, there are jerks on both ends, buyers & breeders, aparently the coach found one on the breeder site.

Kind Regards Ulli Dresbach