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Diane

by Diane on 29 November 2004 - 17:11

I've used the RC24 in my kennel for approx 1 year now and have found it to be a very good food. Coats are great, quantity fed is less than other foods, small firm stools, and all the dogs like it. The main problem I had was the protein:fat ratio was not correct for pregnant/lactating females, and the Puppy32 was not recommended for same. Also, the puppy32 kibble size is rather large for puppies and it took a long time to soak. I informed RC of these problems about 6 months ago and was happy to see they've addressed these issues by introducing a new formula, Maxi Babydog30 (http://www.caninehealthnutrition.com/maxibabydog.htm). This formulation has tiny slightly softer kibble, soaks easily (but pups eat it readily dry) and has a good protein:fat ratio for pregnant/lacting females as well (they recommend it for this). It is to be used from weaning to 5 months, at which time the Maxi32 works well (or can just switch directly to adult24). The company has been excellent in providing packets to puppy buyers with samples, and other support for breeders. Like Birdy, I was initially concernced about the soy based ingredients in the GSD24, but I think the form it is in is generally safe. I've had no issues with this at all. The new puppy formula doesn't contain the soy isolate, by the way. I also feed the Chicken Soup brand, Sensible Choice (to my older more sensitive dog), and have used Nutro as well. With Nutro, I had great outer coats, but found the undercoats didn't seem to come in as nicely as with the other foods. Otherwise, I had good results with it. Chicken Soup food, when moistened with warm water smells really good and the dogs seem to love it. The only problem I had with this was slightly higher stool volume than with the Royal Canin, and I had a couple of dogs tempted to eat stool. I found the Chick Soup puppy worked extremely well for my pregnant/lactating females...they didn't even lose their coats with 7-8 puppy litters, and had robust, healthy babies and good milk production. Haven't yet used the RC Maxi Babydog30 on a pregant female yet, but my current litter is eating it and doing very well. Diane


by Domenic on 20 September 2008 - 11:09

I dont know what you guys are saying cause here in Canada the 24 has changed 2 times in 6 months and the dogs will NOT eat it for days at a time.Before anyone decides that its me doing something wrong I'll tell you that its not only my dog but SEVERAL other friends of mine with multiple dogs had the same problem and switched foods.God only knows that i tried long enough to keep them on it cause i like the idea of the 19% fat content and big kibble but had no luck.Then a young lady from the UK posted the ingredient panel of the same food in the UK and well low and behold ITS DIFFERENT so i dont know what this company is doing.Tried SEVERAL times to speak with them but here in Canada I felt the girl who works there COULD'NT answer hardly any questions and when she did it took a week to 2 weeks and then  more evasive answers.How can a food they claim is for the GSD have so many versions,in the UK its one ingrdient list,in Canada its different and I'll bet anything that in Germany its again different so whats up with that?Here no corn ,in the UK it has corn.I had a big arguement with a friend in my club before saying that it was different food in Germany and i told him no way it could be cause its a fixed GSD food and then to find out this ,i was humiliated.Needless to say we all took our dogs off it and thats the end of it.As a vet friend of mine told me a few years ago,what makes it a GSD food,its all marketing and GENIOUS marketing at that.


steve1

by steve1 on 20 September 2008 - 21:09

Hodie

Royal Canin over here in Belgium is

86 USA Dollars for 27lb bag of Royal Canin German Shepherd 24

Belgium is a hell of an expensive place to live, but you do not get the choice of food stuffs we can in the UK

I feed Orijen as i have said, but Fred gets very hyped up on the training field when he sees other Dogs working and he is not, He never used to be like this and i wonder if the 42% protein content of Orijen is anything to do with this hyped up attitude

He can do his stint on Protection and be ready to go again and again, its not natural, Perhaps i may have to try another lower Protein Kibble and see if it calms him

Ronnie,  how come you pay 30 Euros a bag of Breeders RC,

 what price can you get RC German Shephred 24 for

Steve


Mum of Zoe

by Mum of Zoe on 21 September 2008 - 01:09

We were using it for our puppy, but she really didn't like it.  She started having problems passing her stool as if she was constipated or the diet was too lean.  She wasn't eating enough and her ribs were showing too much for our taste.  We've got her on a regular large breed adult diet (she's almost 8 months now), and she likes it much better than the Royal Canin.  She's gained a few pounds since and doesn't look as skinny.  Royal Canin might be the best food for the dog, but the dogs don't always like it.   It  costs an average of $45 per 40 lb bag at PetSmart.


snajper69

by snajper69 on 23 September 2008 - 17:09

When I took closer look at the ingridiants I didn't like it, so I decided against it. I am using now Vets Choise "Holistic Health Extension Original" I just add vegetable here and there, as well I am giving my dog Olewo Carots, and Matins K9 Formula (antioxidants & Energol) like what I am seeing my girl's stool is always firm, she looks lean and healthy. I did question this food (breeders choie) at first but the more I researched the more I liked the combination. So now I am staying with it. Royal Canine my other female lieks it (24) but I don't think is the bes I can give to my dog. Yeah Raw would be better but I don't have time or money to do it, so Holistic VC sounds good to me and from what I see its a good combination. Good luck.


aristianM

by aristianM on 23 September 2008 - 17:09

Vikram, why feed royal canin when you can give your dogs a homemade or raw diet. Royal Canin does not use human grade meat. IMO this food is of substandard quality. I live in Pakistan and rc and purina are the only brands available here. I used to import Innova Evo but it wasnt getting tooo expensive. Switched to the homemade diet and after a month switched to the raw diet thanks to Yellowrose and some other members on this site. Its the best thing ive done for my female so far. Anyway back to the topic. This food is not worth feeding. Its toooo pricey and costs more than some of the top brands! Goodluck! :D


Shelley Strohl

by Shelley Strohl on 25 September 2008 - 14:09

I use RC 24 for most of my GSD's. Expensive at $50. for 35 lbs., but the dogs are doing well on the stuff and don't need as much to maintain good weight and condition as with some other foods.  I use Canidae Platinum for my seniors, but the rest of the Canidae formulas give the dogs loose stools and drier coats. I do supplement a few of the dogs with K9 Power formulas, especially Super Fuel for dogs in hard training and Young at Heart & Joint Strong for 8 yr. old Carol. (He looks and acts half his age on the stuff) The only K9 Power supplement I was not hapy with was the Puppy Gold. Most of the moms and pups wouldn't eat it, and the ones that did got the scours. I am thinking it may have gone bad in the warm (70-80 F in summer) kennel, but there was no notice that it needed refrigeration on the container.

Anybody using RC Large Dog Breeder's Formula? (available in bulk quantities) I am considering giving that a try this winter, AFTER the show season ends and I can afford to experiment with coat condition.

SS

 


snajper69

by snajper69 on 25 September 2008 - 14:09

Yes my female was getting that for most of her life, she had her days, but never problems with loose stool or coat, always top notch, but I would not recomend as it is pricy and the meat selection is not the best, VC Cost me 50.00 while RC 55.00 so I save 5 plus VC my dogs eat less of it and stay lean and mean, never underweight. I have to agree that RC is great for maintaining weight.  But it is a personal choice Shelly I think it is up to individual dog. Some dogs do really great on RC and some not. Even though I use Vets Choice for my pup, and would love to switch over both of my dogs to VC, they both enjoy RC way better, lol. :) Maybe they know whats better for them, and I am just fooling myself? What ya think? lol.


by ProudShepherdPoppa on 25 September 2008 - 20:09

I have raised my dog on GSD 24 and would not feed anything else.  Her health and coat are excellent!  As they say, don't mess with success!






 


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