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if they are not pink papered what are they

The term "pink papers" is the common name for the the pedigree/registration of dogs registered by the Verein Fur Deutsche Schaferhund(SV), out of Augsberg, Germany.

Here's a link to a good explanation of Pink Papers. http://realgsd.info/GSDinfo/Papers/SV/pink_papers.htm If you don't have Pink Papers, you might be registered with other foreign registries instead of the SV - Sweden, Denmark, Czech, etc., etc., We have also referenced white papers - -and I think that's because one parent is not Korr'd ??? Somebody else can help with this.

Pink papers are issued mostly to pups having pink paper holding parents, issued in all countries with a registration with SV.

The SV issues pink papers only to pups that are whelped in Germany and if both parents have been breed surveyed, regardless if the parents have pink papers themselelves. The KKL status of the parents is what determines if a pup gets pink papers. If one or both parents do not have KKL but fulfill all other breeding requirements the pup will get white papers (which actually are a pale green). Sometimes it is the bitch that does not have the KKL yet at time of breeding, so breeder can delay puppy registration until after dam gets KKL so that pups will then get pink papers (providing stud has KKL too). At BSZS 2004 it became apparent that dogs that are not KKL'd in Germany may not be considered breed surveyed by the SV. The dam of Karat's Ulk got her KKL in Denmark but not Germany, and therefore Ulk was considered to be a white papered dog and not eligible for VA, he was therefore put back 5 spots to a V1.

Correct D.H.! I wonder where some of this stuff comes from?!?!?!?!? And spoken with such authority.

Daniela, a slight correction: pink papers are issued when parents and grand-parents are breed-surveyed. Yes, grand-parents, too. Also, breed surveys in foreign countries are recognized by the SV if they are done under a SV Koermeister. Chris

So are we saying that even if they get his mutter Korr'd by a German Judge she can't get pink papers? Her Mother is DKK also.

Hi Chris just checked with the SV, had to call them anyways... The SV confirmed that only the parents need to be breed surveyed in order for the pups to get pink papers. But - the grand parents have to be at least SchH1 or equivalent (mit Ausbildungskennzeichen). Well, not a day goes by where you don't learn something new :). I guess we will find out next year what has been done with the dams of Ulk and Yoker. They are still alive as far as I know and could be KKL'd in Germany.

Hello Daniela, you are right. I heard from an "oldtimer" that they changed it around the time Max della Loggia received his VA-rating. Supposedly, could not have gotten it otherwise. But in my opinion, they can be breed-surveyed anywhere, as long as it is done by a SV Körmeister. For example, our breed surveys in the US are reckognized because of that. Unless Johannes Grewe would do these surveys, then they are only reckognized here. Sorry Johannes, nothing meant by that - just stating what I believe is a fact. And yes, you are right, we will see what happens with the Karat males. But regardless, they are both excellent. Chris