I urge all SHOWLINE owners to take alook at this video! - Page 5

Go ahead cus my dog for not having an over angulated rear and extreme cow hocks. The dogs in crufts have a much better front than my female but atleast my female is not over angulated in the rear and is not extremly cow hocked. Go ahead throw as many disses as you can at my dog! I know she is better than the trash presented at crufts! I know i have been rude and Terry Hannan deserves it! Fine you say that her front is bad but then how is that she has good front reach?

Arstian, you are wrong... and lack the integrity to admit it!

Cus your dog?  Throw disses?  YOU are the one who thought you had the right to slate a good judge and a good dog... with no knowledge whatsoever!

You are very defensive about your dog and her forward reach is not good actually!  No doubt you'll breed from her... in your quest to rid the world of faulty dogs!!  Well... at least you're in Pakistan!

The judge at crufts deserves it for giving top placements to over angulated and severly cow hcoked dogs. I dont know he is trying to improve this breed. No wonder our dogs have cow hocks, they are bred to dogs like Zamp. This is why the problem exists! Her front reach is good and her front leg reaches far past her chin. She has a good rear front can be improved by breeding her to male that has a correct front. She will be able to pass on correct size, correct temperamnet, pigment, drives, un overly angulated rears, good head and expression, good ears, good topline, un roached backs to her off springs. Front will be improved by breeding to a male i know that has a beautiful front. My females pups with him will be outcrosses and hopfully they wont suffer from health issues. Most dog has some structural faults, in which case my female doesnt have a good front. Myown critique for my female is:

Medium Strong female with correct size. VEry good feminine head with a very good expression. She has a smooth flowing topline with high withers. Upper arm is steep and shoulder is slightly foward placed. however her front reach remains un effected. Her croup is of good lay and could be a little longer. Her pigment is exceptional and rear angulation is good. She ha s sound temperament with exceptional drives. Tracks well to middle and does not show an egg beater action in the rear. Has correct coming but hinds are a little close while going. Overall a good sized bitch whose front could be improved by mating her to a male that has a correct front. She is awell balanced dog.

I'll waste no more of my time... you're delusional, rude and arrogant.

Im rude to people like Terry Hannon. Why are so defensive about him? Do you like the fact that he is promoting over angulated and severely cow hocked dogs? My female has an medicore front because of the supposedly top VA's she is linebred to! 0.o

Zacsmum your telling me that im full of poop? Was i ever disrespectful to you? I mean really was i ever disrespectful to any members on this before this thread? I was called clueless and i have every right to retaliate. There are quite a few people who think working lines are far superior to the modern showline and they posted to.Zacsmum i have nothing against you and certainly dont want to fight with the other members of this board. I will not change my stance on Zamp or Terry Hannan. Will certainly post my female's placements after a month. Seiger show ill be taking place here in November. Her hips are excellent, i have xrayed. Her hocks are not appaling and are actaully far the better than the hocks of the dogs presented at crufts. Please dont degrade my country whereas your country's soldiers had been shooting wounded dogs in Iraq. Worse, they had a good laugh for it. Atleast in my country you wont find people killing, abusing dogs and keeping their skulls for home decoration! We people love dogs so what if most Pakistani keep them outside the house. We love our local breeds like the Bully and love other breeds to. Actaully i was thinking of taking her to crufts, i have money and ill send you a ticket to. We can meet at Crufts in England and we'll see how my female and your dogs perform. Like the idea? Now my female is very confident and will not shy away from the massive crowds, the roars, the press. She has a very sound character and temperament. If shes average she is still better than many Am-Shperhers who are wobbly hock walkers to! Excuse my female has endless stamina and trot all day long if she has to, so yeah she wont tire out on the football field at the Seiger show. Front reach dubious? Any man with failing vision can see the her front leg goes past her chin will gaiting. Try and look closer. As for he pigment she a very rich black and red pigment, better than the dogs at crufts who had washed out colours. Ive you have read all my posts, i have acknowledged her faults. I know she has a steep upper arm and steep shoulder. I will improce that through her offsprings and i certainly know a faulty dog mated with an ul faulty dog will not solve the problem. Breeding is an art. She will be mated with a male with a proper front. Out of the litter some dogs will be correct and others will be slighlty faulty or even faulty. So the un faulty progeny will be mated with correct dogs and, there you go, correct progeny will result.Steep shoulders will be eliminated from the gene pool, and since straight shoulders are present in my female's genepool, she be mated with an outcross who has a gene pool free of straight shoulders. i understand this. Excuse your saying that dogs in my country are sold when faced with criticism. Forgot the countless people on this forum who were from your country, were caught doing the same thing. Your country isnt exactly perfect either and i start writing about it, im sure you will mind! So stop abusing and ridiculing my country! No i dont i dont like Zamp and top VAs like him are responsible for creating problems like; starigh shoulders, steerp upper arms, over angulation, cow hocks! These problem dont exist in working line german shepherds. Why because r not excessively line bred or in breed. Iam willing to learn Zacsmum and i do acknowledge my female's faults!

 it is a hard video... and to think about.

What is the alternative?

I am looking until past month for a male for my female with follow characteristics: HD/ED "a" like my female is, no linebreeding with my female, not to high, not cow-hockend, with a normal line, with good back... and with a normal good evaluation... with a n o r m a l temperament ( not to high spirit because she has it ), with  generally healthy in first.....  and I can say, this few requirements are really to high in this moment.... 

Unbelievable, but  I serious think about that .... not breed more....

If there are any ideas.... would be welcome. 

AND NOW YOU WAKE UP!!!!LIZ

Aristian,

you are still clueless, but now you are becoming comical!!! No sense arguing with you here, as you will never understand. Luckily, you are in Pakistan and not anywhere near us where you can cause any damage. And if you truly think that people in your world treat dogs better, you must be joking.

If you are so wealthy, go and spend your money wisely. May I suggest a trip to Germany next year to the Sieger Show in Ulm? And before you start "ridding" your country of the "overangulated cowhocked trash", you might want to consider switching breeds (how about your bullys)? Please do not breed your mediocre female because you need to keep in mind that you have to find homes for these puppies. 95% or more of your fellow countrymen consider dogs "unclean" and won't take them into their families (I do know more about your culture than you think, believe me). You have plenty of homeless dogs in Islamabad and else where (if they are not used for target practice). And this has nothing to do with country bashing. It is just common sense and a matter of watching the news. Simply put: Your country's priorities do not allow for average pet ownership!

I am done with this subject! There is nothing more to be said! To all the English GSD lovers: I would love to watch Crufts one of these days!

Ramagsd: You can have a chance to watch Javir and his owner perform in Ohio in a few weeks, as they will represent Germany in the WUSV. I wish them lots of luck, since they are also coming from my old hometown where I went to school (that was a different lifetime lol). They are an amazing team!