I urge all SHOWLINE owners to take alook at this video! - Page 7

I might add, that if you feel that the Showlines are full of Problems, you should have done your homework first, and saved yourself a lot of hassle. Enough said. Go and enjoy your dog!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Senta,

zum Zeitpunkt meiner Antwort an Dich stand da noch "bad". Ich war also schneller bzw. zeitgleich (bevor Du Deine Falschaussage loeschen konntest). Aber Schwamm drueber, vergessen wir es! Du hast wohl Zamp mit einem anderen Sieger verwechselt.

Was den ZW von 90 angeht: Dies sind alles nur Richtwerte, und ich persoenlich sehe es nicht als Verschlechterung an, wenn ich mit meiner Huendin, die einen Zuchtwert von 72 hat zu einem Rueden gehe, der 90 und hoeher hat. Die Schaeferhundezucht besteht aus mehr als Zuchtwert! Gesundheit und Vitalitaet sind das Wichtigste in der Zucht, aber der Zuchtwert ist ein Richtwert, der nur begrenzt Aussagekraft hat. Ein Zuechter sollte seine Tiere kennen bzw. den Dialog mit anderen aufnehmen und daher wissen, was ein Ruede bzw. eine Linie vererbt! Aber zurueck zum Thema!

Sicherlich ist es schlimm, was z.B. mit Cavaliers los ist, aber dies ist ein Schaeferhunde-Forum!

zacsmum, aristian is right... why would he dream of owning Zamp? 

Only those with some knowledge would do that!!

I am not going to slate your dog aristian, you clearly love her and that's how it should be but don't be blind man... she may be everything to you but the truth is, she's VERY ordinary (many, if not most pet dogs have better construction) and a responsible person would never breed from her, UNLESS she proves to be exceptionally talented work wise.

You started this thread and voiced your clearly ignorant opinion about a dog and a judge... you were wrong about both; try to learn something from this... quietly!

Brady BEE I wasnt blaming you, sorry i forgot to add Silbersee. My post was directed towards Silbersee and not you. Had I done my homework my female would not have straight shoulders but unfortunately she wasnt bred by me. My Family bought her as a surprise bithday present. I knew she had a good pedigree, i started loving her and even from the very beginning i knew she had straight shoulders, but the rest her looked good to me. She is nice overall! As you can see she has good rear angulation andis not hocked!

Misbeeb please keep the bloody saracasm to yourself. If your so knowledgeable, go to Germany and buy Zamp! Since you preach on having immense knowledge tell me why my girl is sooo ordinary...come on lets hear  a critique from you. Prove why my female is sooo ordinary. Give us a proper critique and it shouldnt be un fair becuase i to have knowledge on anatomy if you say false things about my girl, I will know in a second! So come on misbeeb lets hear it.Remember misbeeb this serious, i want a PROPER critique.

 remember misbeeb im waiting. And in the gaiting picture she was gaiting at a very slow pace. If she goes faster her front reach is even better.

waiting...........

I don't know what your dogs dentition is like and I cannot determine her size or movement accurately.

She has a forward placed shoulder with a steep and slightly short upper arm, her wither is flat and her croup is short and slightly steep, her hind angulation is adequate, she stands at 10 to 2 in front.  Her movement looks to lack drive and her forward reach is restricted, which one would expect from her front assembly.   She has good colour/pigmentation and an acceptable head/expression.  This is a class 2 bitch.

I can't afford Zamp, however, you said in one of your postings that you had money!!  Please feel free to purchase him for me... I'd be very grateful, as would many breeders in the UK!!

Sure ill buy and ship him to the UK.....I am going to germany next year to import dogs for my kennel i shall buy and drop him off at wherever you live. Another picture of front reach where she was gaiting a faster pace.Now this is not an overshot bite. The gap between her upper and lower set of teeth is less that the lenght of a matchstick. Misbeeb what is a class 2 bitch?

Tracks well to the middle!

Her front leg passes her chin without much effort. Misbeeb please take out the time a write a reply to this post. I will be grateful!

 to Silbersee:

Wozu sollte dann der ZW da sein? Es ist ein Anhaltspunkt betrifft Vererbung HD/ED - das Wichtigste bei der Zucht. Nur ein gesunder Hund ist belastungsfähig in der Arbeit. Erstrebenswert erscheint also ein ähnlicher ZW zw. 2 Partnern. Gesundheit und Vitalität sind Voraussetzung für eine verantwortungsvolle Zucht - niemand kann in einen Hund hineinschauen. Der ZW gibt einen Anhaltspunkt über Vererbungs"möglichkeit". Und warum sollte man einen besseren Partner mit einem schlechteren verpaaren? Welchen Grund gibt es dafür? "Schönheit"? Pigment? Inzucht? Trieb?

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back to the topic:

In dem Video ging es nicht nur um Spaniel, sondern um alle Rassen, wenn Du Dir vielleicht auch die anderen Teile des videos anschaust. Und da entstehen natürlich!!! und logischerweise Fragen, die in ihrer Gesamtheit auch die Rasse des Schäferhundes betreffen. Leider.

aristian, she's not the tops!  If you insist upon breeding from this bitch... get some serious advice from a reputable source in your country.  Have you had her hips/elbows done yet? 

She's yours, enjoy her, accept that she's no Siegerine (it's not the end of the world) and learn... we're all still learning, it keeps ones feet on the ground.