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by eichenluft on 23 December 2008 - 06:12

OldlinesSchh - I think  you should check your listed facts before posting them as facts.   The person you are speaking about should set you straight on some of them, I know they won't claim what isn't true about themselves  and I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate false information being posted on a forum such as this, where many people could seize the opportunity to shake that pedestal you have set this person on top of.  Probably won't be too appreciated, when it appears you are only trying to help.  Check facts before posting!

 

molly


Mystere

by Mystere on 23 December 2008 - 21:12

Oldlinesschutzhund,

 

I don't know what to say.   Your post is so terribly inaccurate that I don't know whether it is hyperbole that has crossed the line, or not. 

Item # 1--Bull. Plain and simple.  Several Americans have exported gsds to Germany.  Hell, one of the most famous ones (behind a dog YOU cited!!!) was shipped from California to Germany.  Do you even have a clue which dog that is?

 

Item #2  BFD-- So have 2/3 of the show line breeders in the US!    Hell, there was a hobby breeder in Montana a few years ago who could make very near the same claim.

 

Item #3 Letting you post inaccuracies as reflected in your post calls that into question.

 

Item #4  BFD again.   LOTS of people are members of the SchIII club.  Moreover, LOTS of people have trained and titled dogs to SchIII who are not in the USA  SchIII club because they are not members of USA, OR because they did not obtain all the titles solely at USA trials. 

Item # 5 More hyperbole  and over the top.  There could be endless discussions of which dog was "the best working dog that ever lived."  Sheesh!  There are hundreds of candidates for that "title,"  and hundreds more yet to be born.  

  How old are you, anyway?  I ask because I can see and understand a 14 yo boy making a statement like that with a straight face.  But, not much older than 14.

 

Item #6  WHAT???

Honey, really, go back to you rpost and click on "edit," them just delete the contents.  Your mentor will thank you for it.

 

 


CrashKerry

by CrashKerry on 23 December 2008 - 22:12

Parts of the above post were copies and pasted directly from the website, typos included.


by akctrainer on 24 December 2008 - 00:12

Are these some of those well bred dogs from this kennel? Are these bred to the German standard?

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/search.html?main=db&index_in=All&results_in=10&string_in=misty+ridge

Here's a link to their breeding stock. Do these dogs meet the German breeding standard?

http://www.mistyridge.com/dogs.htm

I found the Schutzhund 3 list. It looks like there are hundreds of American names on the list. I didn't see hers.

http://germanshepherddog.com/members/SchH3%20Club%20List.pdf

 

 

 

 


jc.carroll

by jc.carroll on 24 December 2008 - 19:12

Let's look at this picture again...

... I am surprised no on has commented on what looks like a huge white patch on his chest.


SchHBabe

by SchHBabe on 24 December 2008 - 19:12

Interesting. I didn't know USA had a list of the SchH3 Club members on PDF. Thanks for posting that link, akctrainer. A scan of the list turns up no one with the last name of "Burdette", and a "Joyce DiNenna" from 1995. That's all I can find. Anyone have better luck than I? Did my search engine miss it? BTW - this is the most recent copy of the SchH3 Club list, isn't it? Does the WDA have a SchH3 Club?

SchHBabe

by SchHBabe on 24 December 2008 - 20:12

JC, I'm not sure if it's possible to tell if that's a white spot or not. It could be from the lighting. You'd have to see a frontal shot to be positive. In any case, the saturation of the photo has been enhanced, which is not uncommon with show dogs, to make the coat color appear more intense.

Mystere

by Mystere on 24 December 2008 - 20:12

OOOPS!!! Why do people keep forgetting (or never knowing?) that all this stuff (OFA ratings, or lack, Sch3 club members, event winners, etc.) are ALL AVAILABLE ON LINE? This should be a good lesson for newbies: don't publicly regurgitate everything someone else may tells you or post on their website about themselves as gospel. Do not allow anyone to make a ventriloquist dummy out of you. :-)

jc.carroll

by jc.carroll on 24 December 2008 - 20:12

I ran it through my imaging programs before I posted; I did photo work for a few years. It's not a trick of the light, as the location, angle, the exact shade of white are not replicated anywhere on the dog, and the sharp delineation of the white area makes me highly suspect it's an actual white patch.


Shelley Strohl

by Shelley Strohl on 24 December 2008 - 22:12

Oldlinesschutzhund-  Those "facts" are SO inaccurate.

Lewis was at least 7 yrs. old, essentially retired, having competed in the BSP 4 times, (2x 2nd place) and in the World Championship Twice before he ever stepped on US soil. Here is a link to a video of the "Greatest Working Dog that Ever Lived" (???)... WITH his trainer, Michael Kaiser.  http://www.workingdogvids.com/view/993/lewis-von-malatesta

The SchH 3 Club Member List is about 50 pages long. There is also a 21 page list of UScA Sports Medal recipients. You might want to check them out. (BTW: My maiden name was Roecker)

The German Standard for Breeding GSD's does not include the use of dogs untitled to at least the SchH 1, non-show-rated, non-breed-surveyed  as breeding partners.

I don't want to go into the rest of the mistakes in your post, except to remind you that this is not a good place not to have your facts straight.

I find it personally heart-warming that so many new members have joined us in only 3 short days. Welcome all.

 

 






 


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