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by Blitzen on 12 December 2007 - 00:12

2 years since this thread was first started and I still stick to my opinion - I do not and never will vaccinate another dog against kennel cough for the reasons I've already stated.

by Louise M. Penery on 12 December 2007 - 01:12

The trouble with Bordetella Vaccine is that it only provides immunity for a few weeks (sorta like Lepto)for a disease that is largely self limiting. Also, with as many viral mutations that are possible, the vaccine you gave 4 months ago may not provide protection. If folks are really worried and have a dog with pronounced symptoms and known exposure to kennel cough, they can administer an intra-nasal vaccine and have it halt the progression of the disease within 12-24 hours. OTH, don't vaccinate this dog and let him establish "primary immunity" against this variant of the virus for life.

yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 12 December 2007 - 06:12

Thats why the posters vet , said the new requirements are every 3-4 months.....on the Bortetella..So Louise: If someone brings a pup or dog to your home and it has a cough or starts coughing a day or two later,,,,,do you vacinate all the dogs on your premises...or do you think its better to let them all get it and establish an immuninty in that way....???? Never had kennel cough on my premises.....but I dont board dogs ..only visits from my friends that have gsds.......and I keep three or four of them , occassionaly for a week ....they all have their vacs,,,,,but if they didnt get the Bort. within a 6 mos period,,they wouldnt be considered covered...right??????.

yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 12 December 2007 - 06:12

It seems like it effects the dog, in respect to like we humans, the flu shot...I have never taken one,,but many friends take theirs every year....Im afraid of them...I seen at least 5 people ,come down with a bad case of aches and pains and flu like symptons for three days after they took the shot and I am not a person who gets sick so I will not take a flu shot....maybe when Im in a wheelchair or bedridden at the age of 80 I will agree to it...lol

by Deby on 22 September 2008 - 14:09

I would like to hear more about the Bronchial sinusitus Blitzen wrote about. I have a 95lb 9 yr old red Dobie that had this nasal vaccine a couple of months ago and ever since has been having bleeding from the nostril, mucos and sinus issues. Sounds like something  is stuck up there, we did some blood tests nothing positiveso far, they want to start the head x-rays. We have had a couple of very bloody episodes. Please help any info would be appreciated from anyone and you can write me direct at debycia@aol.com.  I am not too good at this blogging thing. Up until these recent episodes we were only dealing with some arthritis.

Thanks Blitzen!

 


GSDXephyr

by GSDXephyr on 23 September 2008 - 00:09

I have a dog daycare center that I've run for 7 years.  Every spring and fall,  we get a couple of cases of kennel cough.  I have never seen a serious case that required hospitalization or turned into pneumonia.  I understand that it can happen, but I worry that the risk is overplayed.  We'll see maybe 5 or 6 dogs out of 120 or so that cough or gag for a day or two and then are over it.  No fever,  normal appetite, normal activity level.

I also do not require the vaccination for daycare participation.   Almost all of the dogs that come down with symptoms each year have been vaccinated for it however, at the advice of their veterinarian.   The owners are also shocked, and don't believe me at first, because they are under the impression that they "can't" get it if they get the vaccine.   That is false.   But the majority of the dogs (vaccinated or not) do not come down with any symptoms when it goes around.  My own dogs are not vaccinated for it,  and have each had one VERY mild case that cleared up very quickly with no intervention but a little rest.  I would guess that it is more of an issue for dogs that are already ill or very stressed.   

I do know other centers in my area that have had to close from the dogs becoming so sick, so I'm not trying to say that it doesn't happen, and they do require everyone to be utd on the vaccine (every 6 mos is recommended here).  I just think the vaccine doesn't do what everything seems to think it does when they agree to have it given.

I believe that the vaccine is for one specific type of bacteria,  while there are a whole group of virus' and bacterium that can cause the actual "kennel cough" illness. 

I would also worry more about travelling to a new state where my dog might not have any natural immunity to strains they haven't ever been exposed to.  I would still decline the vaccine if I had the option though.

Heather


marjorie

by marjorie on 23 September 2008 - 01:09

No Bordatella here! Its not life threatening and there are so many strains of it not covered.

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by Rainhaus on 23 September 2008 - 02:09

I agree about the strains Marjorie.As for me with my three Gsd's..Three horses etc.I do not give vaccines of any type.I would rather their immune system become hardier..period.Twenty plus yrs with good results.The airborne viruses with no name yet is such a scare.But people need to place close attention.The mutation will directly affect people.The Avian flu for example.Much is held quiet in the media.Just as mad cow disease.


by whodatbe56jean on 23 September 2008 - 06:09

I KNOW OF A LADY WHO TOOK HER DOG TO THE VET AND SHE GOT THE BORTADELLA UP THE NOSE . THE OUP WAS 4MONTHS OLD BY THE TIME SHE GOT THE DOG TO HER CAR IT WAS IN SIEZURES .NEEDLESS TO SAY TWO DAYS LATER THE DOGWAS DEAD.ALSO AN OLD ENGLISH BULLDOG WENT INTO CARDIACT AREST AFTER HAVING A ROUTINE PUPPY SHOT THE BULL DOG WAS TEN WEEKS OLD GOOD THING THAT SHOT WAS GIVEN BY THE VET AND NO SHE DID NOT GET A DISCOUNT ON THE VET BILLTHE BULLDOG LIVED .IWONDER HOW THE DOG WILL DO WITH THE REST OF ITS PUPPY SHOTS .AS I GIVE MY OWN SHOTS TO MY DOGS IT MAKES ME WONDER TO DO OR NOT TO DO


by beepy on 23 September 2008 - 09:09

I dont use the vaccination as I havent found it worth it.

I've been told it can be transmitted by animals other than dogs and possibly by birds or even on the wind.  None of mine who have had the cough have required anything other than cough mixture to help them get over it.

I do know however or an owner who got sneezed on by their dog immediately after they were given the vaccination nasally, and a week later the owner was extremely ill as a result!  After all its not surprising as Kennel Cough is a relation to one of the human cough's.






 


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