Goodbye - Page 4

Yes, well I came back just to see the replies to this post, one last time, and I see that the scum-rakers have been back at it, again.. You want some of this? OK.. Here goes! Everyone grab a cold beer and get your reading glasses..

I'm not sure about the wisdom of going to go on the defensive, here, but I'm not the timid sort. What the heck! For my part, it is pointless. First of all, it is extremely unlikely that I will ever request anything of any of you. So, "blackballing" is not a concern for me. I have what I need to do what I want, and I don't plan to do much, anyway.. I'm too old to care, and I'm at the end of my career path. I know that I will never convince the people who do NOT believe in me, and trust me that I have no interest in these people, anyway. One of the people who has kept this controversy going is someone I trusted as a friend, and he is a backstabber, in my experience. He sits behind a keyboard, stirring up trouble, and taking pot shots at other breeders, while his hard working wife goes out and earns the bread money with her bad back. 

This same guy tried to hold out papers on a bitch pup I paid him for. He signed the papers over to me, then went in and changed them back to his ownership on his AKC online account. That would have been OK with me, because I had offered to send her back to him after I had had ONE litter from her.. which never happened. When I saw that the friendship was dwindling.. for reasons I still am unclear on.. and I felt that I was being treated rudely, I figured I might as well send her elsewhere, so other arrangements were made. This is where the big trouble started.. I personally don't care about AKC, but over this whole matter I have been cleared with them. Irrelevant, really, because I do not want to sell puppies to the public. I don't want anything to do with that business..  WORTH NOTING!!! I told this guy all about my experience and troubles before he sold me the pup. Well, how bad could it be, then? She is still with me, by the way, and I have never had pups from her. She has a stricture and is very hyperactive in the kennel.. a fence runner. More on this, later.. 

For now, let me just say that after fighting with this guy for a year to get my freakin' AKC papers, I finally got them.. on principle, really, because I have been trying to place this bitch, and I know her chances are much better with AKC papers. But, now, she's a year older, and more time / water under the bridge.

On fence-runners.. Too late, I have learned how to manage these kinds of dogs much better. They need very specific dietary supplementation. I've already discussed this online and if any of you benefitted from this information, then fine. Otherwise, figure it out for yourself.. or, learn the hard way, as I did. I am done giving out helpful information from my own experience and knowledge. The brain-pickers can starve, for all I care.. You learn things in handling / raising dogs that you cannot get in any other way, unless you are learning from people who learned in this way. Do you want to waste tens of thousands of dollars and this many years, as I did? I am STILL learning, by the way, and not ashamed to admit it.. in fact an open and inquisitive mind is far better than a closed and small one, already full of opinions..

I'm not sure what that has to do animal abuse charges, maybe you could clarify?

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Fence runners are something we see frequently in this breed. The reason has to do with the kind of herding they are bred to do, which requires the dog to be on the move and alert / watchful, pretty much all day. Great for their traditional work, but these dogs are VERY difficult to keep in a kennel environment.. They bother each other a great deal and don't settle down very well. Sometimes, you go out to pick up the feces in the morning and there is already nothing but a brown smear from one end to the other. These dogs are called, "finger painters". It's pretty common behavior for GSDs in a kennel environment. Some are so bad that they were NEVER settle down and need to be alternated between kennel time or exercise and crate / inside time. The dog I got into trouble over was just such a fence runner and was only in MY care for three days. That's all.. THREE DAYS!!!! She was brought in from elsewhere. I HAD done an intervention on her, before... I specifically told this guy who had her exactly what to do, and he blew me off... A week later, I got another call that she was down, again, and would I come and look at her, please.. which really pissed me off, because I had gone over there every day after work FOR TWO WEEKS to tend to her and I got her back on her feet. When I intervened the first time, she wasn't even eating and was SKIN AND BONES!!!! I was furious, really, and wanted to kill the guy who did this, but just set about the job of fixing the dog. Dog fixed, eating and gained weight, up and moving around, again.. I told him to CRATE HER, during the day when he was at work, and NOT to let her run 24 / 7, again. He completely ignored me, later on coming up with an excuse.. He didn't want to risk getting poop on his shoes, because he had to work in an office environment!!!!! GEEZUS, HELP ME!!!! There was nothing else to do but to pack her up and take her to the kennel, where I had absolutely NO ROOM for her! So, on a Wednesday night, after work, I gathered her up and took her to the kennel. On Saturday morning, here was the animal control, looking at her, in her crate, in my gated front yard, where they had just let themselves in. This was the start of all the trouble..

In hindsight, I should have put this bitch down.. THEY did! She had just eaten and had a drink, and she was completely able to regain and be OK, again. No need for her to be euthanized, and she was a young bitch. Honestly, I don't know what I would have done with her in the long run, because most of my dogs were getting to be up to four and five years of age, and had never had a litter. How many puppies can a person breed and sell? I was still holding down my 25 year career with a major corporation, where I had plenty of opportunity to make all the overtime I wanted.. with a base pay of $25 per hour, time and a half is $37.50 per hour, and after working 49 hours, I would be on double time, which was $50 per hour.. On holidays, I could make double time and a half, to the tune of $67.50 per hour. Do you have ANY idea how much OT I turned down, just so I could come home to my tiny family and my dogs? LOTS!!!! I get sick, thinking about it. It's not just the money.. but the fact that it was all so futile, and so unappreciated. I finally figured out that I was "in the business of losing money, raising nice pets, for people who didn't appreciate it".  Keep in mind, that I never charged more than $500 for a pup.. The $1,500 and up prices which are not uncommon today were unheard of, at the time. I was really more interested to get the pups into good homes and affordable to average families, than to sell high priced prestige puppies or have people buy them, thinking that they would recoup their money in their own puppy sales, two years hence!

Why do you not just go away and not come back. Go where every your kind goes.GOODBYE FOREVER

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This whole story would unwind like a saga, if I let go with it.. which I've actually already done, at another time, without every small little detail (many of which are actually very interesting, IMO). I'm not going to do that, now.. Why? It's been ten years, and I've done my grieving.. I grieved intensely. Imagine watching your own child raped and killed in front of your eyes, and there is nothing you can do.. Extreme, yes, as a comparison. But I had already been through THAT, too.. I had to watch, every day, as my only child got weaker and finally died from injuries sustained in a motor vehicle accident, ostensibly caused by a very foolish and reckless young man with SIX moving violations in SIX MONTHS!!!! Do you think maybe this had anything to do with it? Maybe? OK.. I can tell you that there is no hell on earth, when you are a parent or caregiver, to see someone / something that you love and who you always looked out for and protected and hoped for... and to see them in trouble.. and there is NOTHING you can do about it!!!! You have NO IDEA what kind of a hell these poor dogs go into when they go into the dog 'pound. Those assholes have some pretty good PR people, and the public is pretty damn stupid, let me tell you, to buy into this crap. My poor dogs suffered.. and died.. and were killed off as an expediency. Tears are rolling down my cheeks, right now, just thinking about it. I WAS able to get many of them out, and this is rare.. believe me, it is rare..

There is SO much that you all do not know about the society we live in. I have a personal metaphor, that I peeked through a crack and discovered a parallel universe I never knew was there. You think some guy fucking a goat is sick? Yeah.. That's sick and wierd.. But the kind of incestuous relationships in our government and media are insidious and create far more harm than you could ever imagine. You may not want to believe it, and you may choose to avert your eyes.. This is actually a very normal reaction.. and, therein lies the problem.

Schaferhunden.. If you prefer ignorance, then you know of a dark, damp place where you can put your head.. Good idea! That way you'll have to keep your mouth shut!

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I pray that what happened to me and my dogs.. and to Floyd Boudreax and his dogs, and Emma Harters family and dogs, and so many others.. would never happen, again.. But, it continues and goes on, while you chat on silly lists and make snarky remarks. Maybe this list would not be silly, if some people would actually learn something from someone else's experiences. Take a lead from this and do your own research. I did. I spent the next seven or eight years, doing my own personal investigations on the animal rights movement. I helped in a my own small way to bring public awareness to this problem, which even helped to increase Federal penalties and enforcement on domestic terrorism. That's what this is all about, ultimately.. in a more complicated sort of way. And, if I allowed myself to be bullied and intimidated, I'd be playing right into their game plan. So, I'm not going to do that. In ten years or less, I could be dead, going by a actuarial chart.. What happened to me and my dogs and family is history, and nothing can change that. What matters now, is what happens to you and YOUR dogs. Never forget that. I'm the proverbial "canary in the mine", and the canary is singing!

Was my kennel perfect? Hell, no! I had too many dogs! My bad.. I didn't put enough to sleep on a routine basis. I'm a softy.. I cry when dogs die. I've done it, many times, and cried all the way home, a good two hour trip. I struggled with the decision for months beforehand, debating the matter back and forth, but never willing to simply write the dog off as an inconvenience, or "unprofitable". I actually changed to a "no-kill" approach a year or so before I got into trouble with my licensed kennel, because I came to see things from the viewpoint of the staffers at the animal hospital... who probably grew up wanting to help animals, not kill them. I made a resolve that I would try another way.. but, it didn't work out very well for anyone, did it?

I DO believe that dogs and all creatures have souls.. I adhere to the passage in Proverbs, 12:10.. "A righteous man hath regard for the life of his beast; But the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel". Actually, I never quite understood this passage (the last part), until I saw what "humane" workers and misguided laws do to animals. It makes perfect sense to me, now.

All you do is make excuses and blame other people for your bad behavior. You are a sick person and You make good people want to Vomit.Rob

This is bullshit DDR. I personally saw the way you kept these dogs. Others did as well. In all my years of dealing with dogs and dogs who had been neglected, yours was the worst case, with one exception. The records are clear and can be had and posted here. No one else is going to be taken in by your "tears". You were wacko then and still are. What is a shame is that you treated the dogs as you did, leaving them to lie in their own excrement and urine in small crates. You are damn lucky you did not go to jail. Yes, the normal reaction is to not believe stuff like what you did actually happens. But people saw it. There is no hiding from that however much fiction you want to post here.

I have 1 question and 1 question only... Did you really have 60+ dogs in YOUR care?

Animal abusers, child abusers, abusive partners...they all seem to have the same mentality. Having dealt with each before, I've come to recognize the ranting. They sing the same tune when called out in public.