Definition of Civil Drive for Police/P. Protection Dogs - Page 18

When you come to the place where want to compete,
and believe me you and your dog will feel the stress.
I would suggest throwing out the word temperament all
together and replace it with Civil zone.

Also learn the 5 parts to the civil zone, once you start
they will spring up at you. And you will clearly see the
place to work your dog.

Beetree,
              

If you think of it as a predator that is not mad,
or afraid he is just in a civil zone to survive.
He hunts in that civil zone.

The Alaskan Kodiak bear has a civil zone and
yes he will bite without a sleeve. but has nothing to
do with drive as much as a task he must perform
every day to stay alive.
You can compare the brown bear and the Kodiak.
They have different  civil zones. But you can see all
5 parts that make up the civil zone.

Soft....good mind...In the working Quarter Horse breed
there is a horse that passes a good mind. Of all the
horses he is the de facto...King. But he was an ugly horse
in my opinion....But my horse is 7 x king in her pedigree.
Without king the race horses bred into the line would
not be cowy or respond well to training.

People like the Bannock Paiute ....were the last of the tribes to
submit the the reservations of the white man. I have a friend
that is Bannock. He said his people are hunters..that's what
they are.....The beauty of this people is even though they are
fierce fighters, with a civil zone that can not be compared IMO.
The other side to them is the thing that balances them with
their civil side. And that is their outlook that all things are sacred.
The earth, water and air....so they take nothing for granted.
A soft and hard side.

Beetree,

Brains before beauty... that too, should not be overlooked.

I think it is being done the other way...

Beauty before brains.

I think it is strange that the Malinois is such a beautiful
dog without much tampering.

It's like Frank Loyd Wright said, form follows function.

Banocks have the Ghost and Sun dance.

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I changed it to say better what I meant...

In our society it is a toss up between brains and
beauty.

But structurally... form follows function.
The conformation of a dog to perform the work he
is asked to do.

Did you not say the Quarter Horse would not be the same without the ugly ancestor?

Yes I did,....the  working cow horse comes from King.

An ulgy dog in IMO was Mink...but he had very good working
traits.

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